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Old 07-12-2011, 05:19 AM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69L78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I taked to the owner at the York show on Sat., and here is a picture of him and the car in 1969 showing the white nose. He told me that the special order paint is a 1966 color and they would not guarantee it to stick to the nose so his dad opted for the white since it had parchment int. I did see the window sticker from H &amp; H Pontiac in Harrisburg, PA where the owner and car resides. </div></div>
And you really believed him???? Do you really think that barrier blue would not stick to the bumper but every other color know to man would?? I would be willing to bet that the car was nosed a little in the front and they could not match the color so they painted it white at his request. It was not original paint on the nose.BTW All 69 ram air cars came from the factory with Blacked out grilles. This car had silver grilles.Another red flag.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:48 PM
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I don't know who this GTO Don is, or who he thinks he is, but I can GUARANTEE this car has NEVER been repainted as I have known the car it's whole life from the day my father picked it up at the dealership until now.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:09 AM
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We know who he is. Right or wrong about this matter is one thing BUT this man knows his cars, especially Pontiacs pretty well. I don't believe he would shoot from the hip with any statements he would make on this subject without giving it alot of thought. Just seems like a real odd occurance with your bumper. Maybe a one of? Nice car!
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:33 AM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfeman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know who this GTO Don is, or who he thinks he is, but I can GUARANTEE this car has NEVER been repainted as I have known the car it's whole life from the day my father picked it up at the dealership until now. </div></div>
I feel the need to respond to your post and first off let me apologize if I have offended you but I can Guarentee you that as an owner of a bodyshop and having restored alot of GTO's That I feel I am Qualified to make a reasonable doubt about the paint on your Dads car. It does not make sense to me that 66 Barrier Blue does not stick to your rubber nose. I have had lots of 69 special paint cars and have never heard this argument in 30+ years of restoring these cars. As a painter this argument does not hold water. Now if you said that your father really wanted the car painted this way and made the right calls to get it done then I would say NEVER SAY NEVER. But you were just a child and Im sure you would not remember being in the showroom with the salesman hearing this statement. Dont you think its possible that your dad just thought it would look cool if the bumper was white??? It was 1969?? I looked that car over real good and let me say first that it is a beautiful car and your father took amazing care of it and I know you are very proud of it but in my opinion and its just my opinion that the bumper was originally Barrier Blue and it was painted white when new. He might have even told the saleman to paint it white before it came home To give it his personal touch. Again Im sorry if I have offended you but I had to be honest with my post. Take care of your great car.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:35 PM
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Thank you for clarifying your comments. I and my late father appreciate it. All I can tell you is that from back as long as I can remember that is what I was told, he was told by the dealership.
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