1969 427 camaro copo????? - Page 14

al8apex · #**131** 03-05-2011, 04:35 PM

there are other people besides the one you allude to that know their stuff ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

regarding the rants, there is an old saying about honey and vinegar ...

**iluv69s** · #**132** 03-05-2011, 04:56 PM

Hey Jim,

I realize that there are other experts that probably know more, but the other experts are so unknown to the general public, that thier expertise is not valued as much...right or wrong. If I were selling ..or buying..a camaro, I would want the person who is by far, the leading authority on Camaro documentation. I am sure he has documented many many more Camaros than anyone. Probably atleast 10 fold.

In the Camaro world, if he says it is real, it does not matter if it is fake...people believe his word,right or wrong...that is where I would spend my money...whether I like the guy personally or not.

.....just my opinion....

**Jonesy** · #**133** 03-05-2011, 11:02 PM

Instead of having "that guy" come and and pay him money. Use the money towards getting the POP back. He's only going to tell you what you already know. The original POP is as good as his documenting the car.

**iluv69s** · #**134** 03-06-2011, 04:30 AM

unfortunately, without ´that guy` documenting the protecto-plate for me, I would not know an original protecto-plate from a fake...and I feel that I am very much more knowledgeable than the average Camaro fan....

for the 250 bucks that he charged me to document my car, I feel that his documentation is worth many times more than if I had the orignal protecto-plate for my car....

..anyone that is expert enough to tell if the protecto-plate is original does not really need the protecto-plate or´that guys´documentation to know that this car is real. His documentation is for those of us that cannot tell the good fakes from the real cars...

**iluv69s** · #**135** 03-06-2011, 04:36 AM

I hope that the opinions that this forum is offering this fellow member has nothing to do with personality clashes or whether we like the expert in question or not....

unfortunately, I feel that is not the case at times...

I am trying to give the best advice as to what I would do to better document and verify the authenticity of this car for the benefit of ´everyone´ in the future..not just the experts on this board...

#**136** 03-06-2011, 05:04 AM

Kinda of funny that someone can't say Jerry's name on here now. There are "stories" out there about ED C. saying cars was destroyed and they showed up. I have heard the same of Joel Rosen not documenting a car, then a week or two later the owners get a crazy offer on a car that is not a documented car. I just think not every one is perfect, especially me! JMO

sYc · #**137** 03-06-2011, 03:01 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JD502</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kinda of funny that someone can't say Jerry's name on here now. There are "stories" out there about ED C. saying cars was destroyed and they showed up. I have heard the same of Joel Rosen not documenting a car, then a week or two later the owners get a crazy offer on a car that is not a documented car. I just think not every one is perfect, especially me! JMO
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Ed C. and Joel have not been banned from this board. Jerry has, not once but twice.

**iluv69s** · #**138** 03-07-2011, 03:22 PM

I usually take the high road on these conversations, but why is it that when I mentioned Jerry M's name a few weeks ago, my post got deleted and I was PM'd to "please not mention his name here as he has been banned"....and a few days later I notice a thread here about SSR BOB which basically was a thread created to trash him??

So we can mention his name as long as we are trashing him??

I respectfully ask 'Can someone please tell me the rules here??'

Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball..every announcer in the world talks about him..and appreciates what he has done for the sport...

Love him or hate him, Jerry M has done a great service for this hobby in just the knowledge that he has brought forward through his research and his books...I believe his books have been a very valuable resource for many of us.

This owner of this COPO obviously knows about him as he has already used his resto. services..what is the big secret?

I know personally that him documenting my cars was a big part of the reason that helped sell them..

I am here just trying to give the best advice I can to a fellow member that is seeking advice...
Isnt that what this forum is all about???

Sorry if I have ruffled any feathers here...

..and sorry for going on a tangent on this thread...I hope the higher ups have the courage to not delete this..(or delete me for that matter...hehe)I have always admired and respected this site and it's members and am dearly greatful for all the help and knowledge I have recieved here.

respectfully, Max

sYc · #**139** 03-07-2011, 03:41 PM

We would rather there be no discussion, good or bad, about Jerry, but A. after being banned he posted under another username B. you, and a couple of others, after repeated PMs to not do so, continue to mention his name.

Though you may have have the upmost respect for him, some of us here do not share your opinion.

al8apex · #**140** 03-07-2011, 04:15 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I usually take the high road on these conversations, but why is it that when I mentioned Jerry M's name a few weeks ago, my post got deleted and I was PM'd to "please not mention his name here as he has been banned"....and a few days later I notice a thread here about SSR BOB which basically was a thread created to trash him??

So we can mention his name as long as we are trashing him??

I respectfully ask 'Can someone please tell me the rules here??'

Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball..every announcer in the world talks about him..and appreciates what he has done for the sport...

Love him or hate him, Jerry M has done a great service for this hobby in just the knowledge that he has brought forward through his research and his books...I believe his books have been a very valuable resource for many of us.

This owner of this COPO obviously knows about him as he has already used his resto. services..what is the big secret?

I know personally that him documenting my cars was a big part of the reason that helped sell them..

I am here just trying to give the best advice I can to a fellow member that is seeking advice...
Isnt that what this forum is all about???

Sorry if I have ruffled any feathers here...

..and sorry for going on a tangent on this thread...I hope the higher ups have the courage to not delete this..(or delete me for that matter...hehe)I have always admired and respected this site and it's members and am dearly greatful for all the help and knowledge I have recieved here.

respectfully, Max </div></div>

IMHO (<MY humble opinion) if someone doesn't know enough about what they are buying they shouldn't be buying it.

If it makes you feel better because (I am going on a long stretch here to make a point) a note from your mommy (that is the stretch) says it is ok or anyone else you pay to appraise whatever, then you are in the hobby for the wrong reasons.

Yes, there are MANY crooks out there (coff RG 69 Z28 rebody coff) and someone will always be stretching "facts" to fluff up whatever they are selling.

Bottom line is (IMHO again) do your homework BEFORE you pull the trigger. IF that homework involves the services of someone that may know more than you about a particular subject, certainly enlist them to assist you.

Getting back to the thread topic, I hope everything works out well, people do funny things when they smell $$$$$$

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