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In my experiences, the car with the C-VIN trumps the car with the VIN plate.
In my earlier example regarding another Yenko Camaro, the car with the C-VINs trumped the car with the vin tag. At one time the car with the vin tag had a C-VIN stamped into the f/wall that didn't match. The prior owner was notified of the discrepancy, so he simply filled it in and painted it, then sold the car. That car with just the vin tag eventually had it removed by the PA State Police.
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Perfect Pete, I understand!
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Tracker1, what color is that Daytona supposed to be?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually 4 in total..
Engine and Trans plus the two Firewall stampings. Click here for clarification... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfq5kju627c [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete </div></div> So if a car had the Vin tag, and the original motor and transmission, but no hidden vins? What would that car be classified as then? The powerplant and transmission with the correct numbers along with the vin tag would (in my opinion) be worth way more than a car with 2 hidden vins, no vin plate, and no original drivetrain!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="font-style: italic">So if a car had the Vin tag, and the original motor and transmission, but no hidden vins? What would that car be classified as then? The powerplant and transmission with the correct numbers along with the vin tag would (in my opinion) be worth way more than a car with 2 hidden vins, no vin plate, and no original drivetrain! </span></div></div> The value comparison being suggesting isn't clear cut enough and even if so would certainly be subject to opinions...especially here! It also may depend somewhat on where the person and such vehicles and/or parts of actually are and if title can be obtained there w/ the original #'s or not also being in possession of loose Vin tags in some places could quickly land a fella in the jailhouse!. Regardless of any scenarios, an unaltered 'vehicle' bearing the hidden Vins is THE vehicle the title belongs to, regardless of what engine/trans it may be sporting or tag if any is affixed!. Was the Canadian Daytona a green one?. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete
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So if a car had the Vin tag, and the original motor and transmission, but no hidden vins? What would that car be classified as then? The powerplant and transmission with the correct numbers along with the vin tag would (in my opinion) be worth way more than a car with 2 hidden vins, no vin plate, and no original drivetrain! [/quote] How can a original VIN tag, motor and trans. be original if they are not in the original car they were made with?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: talwell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In today's day of people restamping and creating just about anything that could establish an extraordinary value, has there been any examples known as to where someone has restamped the hidden vins on a car yet? I would think that this could be replicated just as easily as block or part stamping could be. </div></div>
Yes it can be done very easily and there are cars out there that can fool the best of them.
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As far as how things 'can' happen in IL, the folks at the state police told me a few yrs back, they really only care about what numbers are on the frame or the hidden body numbers. They definitely know what they are doing and how to get to the numbers that matter. They have no issue taking a car with issues. What happens to it after they take it I do not know. The one example they told me they just got finished picking up was a restored 62 vette in Chicago where the title did not match the frame numbers. Car was a big dollar ride, new owner lost his new purchase.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one example they told me they just got finished picking up was a restored 62 vette in Chicago where the title did not match the frame numbers. Car was a big dollar ride, new owner lost his new purchase. </div></div>
That makes no sense. The frame on a lot of early corvettes rotted out and has to be replaced during a restoration.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That makes no sense. The frame on a lot of early corvettes rotted out and has to be replaced during a restoration. </div></div>
As well as a lot of Chevelles.
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