E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[talwell]

In today's day of people restamping and creating just about anything that could establish an extraordinary value, has there been any examples known as to where someone has restamped the hidden vins on a car yet? I would think that this could be replicated just as easily as block or part stamping could be.

[Steve Shauger]

To answer this question:

"I was just trying to establish if a shell with a hidden VIN and no VIN tag was more legitimate or desirable than a shell with just a dash VIN tag."

A body with orig vin stampings is the legitimate VIN. Simply installing a VIN tag to a car body that has different VIN stampings is a rebody.

BTW the example you use is not necessarily the case in the car being discussed. A physical examination has yet to done so it is undetermined at this time.

[Hylton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: talwell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In today's day of people restamping and creating just about anything that could establish an extraordinary value, has there been any examples known as to where someone has restamped the hidden vins on a car yet? I would think that this could be replicated just as easily as block or part stamping could be. </div></div>


Yes it can be done very easily and there are cars out there that can fool the best of them.

[black69]

As far as how things 'can' happen in IL, the folks at the state police told me a few yrs back, they really only care about what numbers are on the frame or the hidden body numbers. They definitely know what they are doing and how to get to the numbers that matter. They have no issue taking a car with issues. What happens to it after they take it I do not know. The one example they told me they just got finished picking up was a restored 62 vette in Chicago where the title did not match the frame numbers. Car was a big dollar ride, new owner lost his new purchase.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one example they told me they just got finished picking up was a restored 62 vette in Chicago where the title did not match the frame numbers. Car was a big dollar ride, new owner lost his new purchase. </div></div>

That makes no sense. The frame on a lot of early corvettes rotted out and has to be replaced during a restoration.

[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That makes no sense. The frame on a lot of early corvettes rotted out and has to be replaced during a restoration. </div></div>

As well as a lot of Chevelles.

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one example they told me they just got finished picking up was a restored 62 vette in Chicago where the title did not match the frame numbers. Car was a big dollar ride, new owner lost his new purchase. </div></div>

That makes no sense. The frame on a lot of early corvettes rotted out and has to be replaced during a restoration. </div></div>

But this quote from you(Fast67VelleN2O)makes sense:
&quot;I am of the personal belief that the numbers are what make a car... not the body. To each his own opinion.&quot;

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
But this quote from you(Fast67VelleN2O)makes sense:
&quot;I am of the personal belief that the numbers are what make a car... not the body. To each his own opinion.&quot;

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Yes that is what I believe. The frame, as well as the body, in my opinion, is a replacable piece. The serial and cowl plate numbers, in my opinion, are what count. Every car received the same frame and body.... not every car received the same numbers.

[69hurstSC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yes that is what I believe. The frame, as well as the body, in my opinion, is a replacable piece. The serial and cowl plate numbers, in my opinion, are what count. Every car received the same frame and body.... not every car received the same numbers. </div></div>

Crazy analogy #1
Think of a car as a human body. The body is the skin, frame is the skeleton, heart is the powerplant and the tags are your DNA. You can have a heart transplant, your skin grafted and your DNA altered. Can you live without a skeleton?