E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[al8apex]

how many times can someone ask the same question?

are we there yet?
are we there yet?
how much further?
when are we going to get there?
are we there yet?

the thread is interesting with all the facts and research of recollections & memories

just not sure why so many have counterproductive input ... I just don't understand ...

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm not, I think two sides creates balance and in the end will prove to have a positive impact on this car.

[COPO140]

Jason,
Don't really care what you think quite frankly. I have asked straight forward questions and they are reasonable questions. Certainly not tough or tricky questions. I like to deal in facts its that simple. No harm intended. If bergy does not want to answer simple questions, he should not comment on a public forum. I think there are several people who want to know what additional info bergy has to make such claims but so far he has been nothing but illusive. I dont trust that and I am sure there are many here that dont. Your attempt to get some sort of rally against me is lame. For some reason you are neglecting to see the power of this statement and I quote "a large percentage of my car is 616414". I have been around for a long time and have seen cars arise from dust. This seems to be the makings of such an event. I didn't make the statement, bergy did. If he makes that sort of claim in a public forum, he does owe an explaination imo. The facts thus far do not support this claim. So I must ask, who wants to know what additional info bergy has to back that claim?

[x Baldwin Motion]

Yes, this is very interesting, almost exciting to tune in each day. Kinda makes my three two owner vehicles boring.

by the way, COPO140, I sent you a PM in regards to your earlier inquisitive post.

[COPO140]

I think that is a logical perspective Yenko Duece Registry. All Im looking for is a simple and straight answer. Call me kooky but my direct question has been avoided since I asked it and that is why I continue to smash it home. That really bothers me.

[COPO140]

Jason, if I can get a reasonable answer, I will let it go but I think its an important question with such a large claim. The answer opens new avenues to discuss.

[bergy]

AAGGHHHH!!!!! Hoffa's in the trunk!

[al8apex]

LOL

Does he have any paperwork in his pockets?

[camarojoe]

Funny thing to me is, some photographs of this car in it's " right now" condition would easily show a firewall replacement, as well as all the other assorted COPO/Yenko specific details mentioned (but not shown) I know it's bergy's car and he can post or not post whatever he wants, but I just see all this as a bunch of he said/she said jargon with no photos to verify what EITHER side is claiming. A few good detail pics of this car in it's current condition would likely silence all skeptics, including myself.

I honestly DO have a feeling this is the original yenko body sans firewall if it has all those other details currently, but I haven't seen any of it, only heard of it. The bodyshop pic looked promising, but all it really showed was a door that was green. If it really has all the other details mentioned in it's current state, in unrestored condition, I'd say that would convince me way more than any stack of sworn statements ever would.

[SuperNovaSS]

I do agree that it is a large claim and I do think it deserves and answer. I also agree that the claim should not have been made if Bergy was not prepared to back it up. It will be difficult, if not impossible to come close to proving this without disassembling the car.

That said, does it help to ask the same question every other post when no new information has come to light? No, it doesn't. Bergy is the one who added to this thread to say he bought the car to begin with. That goes a long way to show what his intentions are. Add that to the fact that he was also very forthcoming on the 69 RS COPO he recently bought off Ebay, did the footwork on, and restored and I think his intentions are to save a significant car if the facts prove the car is worth saving as a Yenko.

No matter what, at the end of the day the car is still a 69 Camaro with a 4 speed that you could run the piss out of. Isn't that what its all about anyway?

I parted out lots of cars in the 90's. Growing up in Southern CA, if a car had rust in the quarters, trunk, or more than one floor pan, it was a parts car. Doing quarters was just not something that was done there. Lots has changed since then.

Also, in the 90's I would not have known COPO attributes if they were staring me in the face. BE rear? I didn't even know where the codes were. Large sway bar? Must have been a hot rodder. I passed on my 69 Harrell Camaro the first time around because I did not know what to look for.

What I am getting at here is this may or may not be the real Yenko body. I hope it is but the facts will tell the true story and that is what Bergy is after from what I can tell. According to Jim, the car was parted out. That shows how much someone cared that it was a Yenko at the time. If the hulk that was left was founf to be buildable down the line, I don't think anyone cared or even knew it was a big block body, let alone a Yenko. For a Z/28 clone/hotrod does it really matter if the VIN is a 6 cylinder, V8, or state issued VIN? To some yes, but I doubt it mattered to the builder of this car. Maybe the title of the other car was salvaged and they used this VIN? Yes, that is a possibility.

I am sure Bergy will update us when he has more facts and he is ready. He sure has been keeping us up to date to this point. For all who don't think this is the case, look at this thread. It is now 26 pages long!

Wow, I didn't plan to type this much,


Jason