The BOSS is back!!!

[69 Post Sedan]

While the Camaro is a little heavier (300lbs), it's a LOT faster than the 4.6....almost a full second in the 1/4 mile.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...risons/4309423

Ford is definitely on top of things but it's no secret that the Camaro is a close second in the 2011 cars. The Challenger is not even close in performance or price. IMO Although a great looking car.

[talwell]

By no way does Ford set the standards and Chevy follows. This is far from factual. As was stated, the 2010 Camaro was the first year release and wiped out all the competition. For 2011 Ford responded with a very nice and well equipped Mustang. But fret not, Chevy is testing the Z-28 now. This car is rumored to be LSA based and be running around the 550hp mark.

Apples for apples - the GT needs to be compared to the SS and the Boss or GT500 needs to be compared to the coming Z-28.

If any 2011 Mustang owners want to see what Chevy has in store for them in regards to future beat downs, just dare try to pull a light on a CTS-V Cadillac. This is a supercharged LSA powered monster and pumps out over 550hp.

Even with this said, we have not even started talking about Ford competing with the Z06 or the ZR1. So, unfortunately I think you are very flawed in your statement of Ford leading the pack.

But with all this new found muscle car wars comes the treasures to the consumers. Who would have thought 5 years ago Detroit would be rolling out cars that have HP levels never before seen in production cars.

I am in my glory now as this is like living he late 1960's all over again.

[flyingn]

take it from lifetime GM guy.. Ford IS leading the pack.. Drive em both.. The 550 hp GT500 is out now.. (Ford has a bolt on 750 hp kit for it too)It will beat the (maybe??) Z28 just like the GT is faster and handles better then the Z28. Face it GM is not the GM we all once knew.. *sigh*

With GM taking the govt $$ was the nail in its coffin. Ford is making billions and never took a dime.. Cause they build cars people want.. The last privately owned American car company..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: talwell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By no way does Ford set the standards and Chevy follows. This is far from factual. As was stated, the 2010 Camaro was the first year release and wiped out all the competition. For 2011 Ford responded with a very nice and well equipped Mustang. But fret not, Chevy is testing the Z-28 now. This car is rumored to be LSA based and be running around the 550hp mark.

Apples for apples - the GT needs to be compared to the SS and the Boss or GT500 needs to be compared to the coming Z-28.

If any 2011 Mustang owners want to see what Chevy has in store for them in regards to future beat downs, just dare try to pull a light on a CTS-V Cadillac. This is a supercharged LSA powered monster and pumps out over 550hp.

Even with this said, we have not even started talking about Ford competing with the Z06 or the ZR1. So, unfortunately I think you are very flawed in your statement of Ford leading the pack.

But with all this new found muscle car wars comes the treasures to the consumers. Who would have thought 5 years ago Detroit would be rolling out cars that have HP levels never before seen in production cars.

I am in my glory now as this is like living he late 1960's all over again. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> just like the GT is faster and handles better then the Z28.</div></div> [/quote]

I'm wondering how you know that? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Wayne

[musclecarjohn]

Car's look real sharp.

[PeteLeathersac]

Makes little difference to me as I'm not a Rustang guy but the new Boss would've looked better w/ the '70 Boss striping instead of the '69 style!.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
~ Pete

[mockingbird812]

No back seat? Pretty serious. That should save some weight. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] hmmmm....radio delete, heater (a/c) delete, rubber floor mat......

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Makes little difference to me as I'm not a Rustang guy but the new Boss would've looked better w/ the '70 Boss striping instead of the '69 style!.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
~ Pete
</div></div>

Remember, they only ran the Boss in 69 an 70. Maybe this new Boss is the 69 and the following year boss will be dressed like the 70!

[69 Post Sedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With GM taking the govt $$ was the nail in its coffin. Ford is making billions and never took a dime.. Cause they build cars people want.. The last privately owned American car company..</div></div>

FYI...It was a loan and GM has paid it back. As a matter of fact, all 3 US automakers are seeing profits. That hasn't happened since 2004.

Ford is doing a great job but so is GM and Chrysler. As someone said before....this is the 60's all over again between the new musclecars.

Keep them coming!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img]

[flyingn]

incorrect. GM took some of the money they got on loan and paid THAT back to the gov't saying they paid some of the the loan back.. How underhanded..
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/0...back-its-loan/

http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/23/general...kha-dalmia.html

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2003...s-loan-sort-of

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With GM taking the govt $$ was the nail in its coffin. Ford is making billions and never took a dime.. Cause they build cars people want.. The last privately owned American car company..</div></div>

FYI...It was a loan and GM has paid it back. As a matter of fact, all 3 US automakers are seeing profits. That hasn't happened since 2004.

Ford is doing a great job but so is GM and Chrysler. As someone said before....this is the 60's all over again between the new musclecars.

Keep them coming!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img] </div></div>