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A couple of pics from '69 at Road America, the Z/427 Camaro and the Corvette Mulsanne. The accent color on the Camaro is not black even though it appeared to be in the calendar photo.

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Jon those are some neat pictures. However I question the date of 1969 as the Corvette has the 1970 fender louvers on it. Did anyone notice that the front bumper on the Camaro appears to be molded in, not just the rubber bumper option from 69? Possibly the front clip is fiberglass. Notice the windshield on the Corvette is not stock as it is taller than a production one. The t-top roof leading edge is behind the windshield frame instead of on top of it. The proportions do not look right. I thought the Camaro was yellow but looking at these last two pictures it appears to be a yellow pearl or gold color instead, but I think the stripes are still black. They just look different due to the tent the car is parked under.
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From 1974 on, I've been to Road America every summer. All though the 70's they'd bring show cars, usually Corvettes. The Mulsanne Corvette showed up many times in different configurations.
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The '70-style fender louvers do not mean that it can't be from '69. The '70 Corvette changes would have been finalized by calendar year '69, and GM styling exercises often tested or foreshadowed known upcoming production change, especially when you're talking about Bill Mitchell-commisioned Corvettes.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tom406</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The '70-style fender louvers do not mean that it can't be from '69. The '70 Corvette changes would have been finalized by calendar year '69, and GM styling exercises often tested or foreshadowed known upcoming production change, especially when you're talking about Bill Mitchell-commisioned Corvettes. </div></div>

I totally agree with that.

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The rear 1/4 panels on the Corvette look like the un-flared 1/4's on a typical '69. The front actually looks like it might have the 1970 front fender flares behind the front wheels. That tall windshield in killing me.......it looks like a man's receding hairline everytime I look at it!
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I only remember this car as the &quot;Scirocco&quot;, but in fact in 69 it was the &quot;Aero Coupe&quot; which showed the new for 70 louvers and the flared front fenders. It had a ZL1 that was actually 454cid, with an experimental 4-spd automatic. The car was repainted for the 70 show circuit, then received A-pillar mounted mirrors, body color front bumper and grill, new hood, and a new roof. It was used as a pace car for the Can-Am series until 1974 when it was modified by Bill Mitchell again into the Mulsanne Corvette which had lots of body and interior modifications. The one constant was the taller &amp; rounded w/s frame. It again was used as a pace car for 1975 on a limited basis. Here are two pictures I found of it on the internet as the Scirocco.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: volspeed1970</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I only remember this car as the &quot;Scirocco&quot;, but in fact in 69 it was the &quot;Aero Coupe&quot; which showed the new for 70 louvers and the flared front fenders. It had a ZL1 that was actually 454cid, with an experimental 4-spd automatic. The car was repainted for the 70 show circuit, then received A-pillar mounted mirrors, body color front bumper and grill, new hood, and a new roof. It was used as a pace car for the Can-Am series until 1974 when it was modified by Bill Mitchell again into the Mulsanne Corvette which had lots of body and interior modifications. The one constant was the taller &amp; rounded w/s frame. It again was used as a pace car for 1975 on a limited basis. Here are two pictures I found of it on the internet as the Scirocco.
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Looks like it has '73 plates on it. Can't say this look was an improvement over the earlier version. My parents were tech inspectors (scrutineers) at Road America and we were at every race from '70 thru '74. I even got my tech license for the '73 and '74 season. Bill Mitchell used to bring show stuff like this to the track every year. The Pete Estes '68 Z/28 Camaro convertible was the '68 Road America Can-Am pace car and I believe the Camaro Cherokee was the '67 RA Can-Am pace car. Whatever Mitchell brought every year was usually used as the pace car and that went on until after I left.

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