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I think there is some confusion in this topic..
Bill Clement was infamous for among other things,the B/J Buddy Holly '58 & the Al.Head LS-6 Chevelle @ChevyCraft in Lubbock Tex. Jim Clemens is the ebay seller being discussed here in Florida. They are not related.. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think there is some confusion in this topic..
Bill Clement was infamous for among other things,the B/J Buddy Holly '58 & the Al.Head LS-6 Chevelle @ChevyCraft in Lubbock Tex. Jim Clemens is the ebay seller being discussed here in Florida. They are not related.. </div></div> Thanks for clearing it up, Rick. I meant Bill Clement in my previous post, but, it would apply to both. I have nothing against either and have purchased some great literature from Jim over the years. I think his P-O-P service is great and I bought one from him in the past because it is a deduction if you don't have one for NCRS judging. Thing is, they <span style="font-style: italic">ain't gonna</span> fool anyone that knows what to look for and that's a good thing.
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Whew. My mistake.
Thanks for clearing it up. My apolgies. Wayne |
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Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>
Bob, NCRS is not OK with and does not encourage trying to fraud a vehicle with fake P-O-Ps, Build Sheets and re-stamps. You are commenting on something you don't know anything about. I don't recall the last time I saw you involved with NCRS. You are one Hell of a great fellow, but, stick to subjects you are familiar with. If it were not for the NCRS, the rest of the hobby would be at a disadvantage on knowledge about the items you mentioned above. The NCRS has done more than any group to educate its members, and others, on realizing what is real and what is not. I don't mean to start a pissing contest but, how involved with NCRS are you? Why do you pretend to know what NCRS does and does not stand for? Come on down to Charlotte, NC for the National Convention in July. I will pay for your yearly membership, entry fee to the National meet and you can stay in my room (yes, double beds [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]) and I will personally introduce you to some of the best folks you will ever want to meet. It will, I'm sure, clear up some of your unsubstantiated, unwarranted and uninformed misconceptions. Take care and, call me if you have any other questions about NCRS. Oh yeah, I love Camaros, Novas, Chevelles AND big Chevies too. No Bullshit...come on down to Charlotte and let me introduce you to a whole new set of great people than can give you an education. Come on, Bob, talk is cheap. This would make a great write-up in July on this website. The article could read, 'I went with Mark and here is what I saw, witnessed and so on...This is what I experienced first hand...' Most likely, you would write...'I had a hard time keeping up with Mark and his buddies...' [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif[/img] Regards, Mark 859-612-9121 Mdonnally
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Well Mark, I never got into NCRS. All I know is what I read. And if you are into NCRS like it sounds I would imagine you call out all the fake POP, restamped blocks etc that you can pick out in under a minute as you say ? Let's hope so. I wouldn't really care to walk around an NCRS meet with you but thanks. Sounds like fun. Why don't you educate us all right here and tell us how to pick out a fake POP ? Maybe you can show us the one you bought and point out the differences ?
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Bob,
You know, full well, I'm not going educate you or anyone else about what is real and what is not here on this website. I've said...come on down instead of running your mouth about things you know nothing about. It would be fun, as you have said, but, you would rather throw stones instead of going to any trouble to learn about things you know nothing about. I hesitate to get into it with someone who is as popular as you about a controversial subject but, so be it. What have you read, specifically? Tell us all, specifically, what you know about NCRS. You have already said you never got in it but you somehow know what they stand for, how they think, what they know. Please enlighten us. I've got the courage to come to this site and involve myself and enjoy myself among fellow Camaro enthusiasts. I have never seen you post on the NCRS site. Have you ever posted there? Bob, please accept my invitation to come to Charlotte. Come on down and meet fellow enthusiasts, like yourself. I truely believe you can clear up some ignorant, uninformed misconceptions. If you do, I believe you will be honest enough to write about your experiences here for the membership. Regards, Mark
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Never understood why the NCRS is OK with fake POP's and build sheets and re-stamps. In fact it seems like it is encouraged. Oh well. Some things never change. </div></div>
Well it sounds like the NCRS does ding people for fake POP's so I will have to humbly and gladly retract this post which was based on the EBay fellow saying he has been serving the NCRS community.
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