Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!

[67nickeycamaro]

OK for the Nitwits that care,I did all the research on the car
obtained the NICB report which is extremely tough to accomplish and paid the Joel Rosen Fee of $2000.The new owner received a copy of the Joel letter and was offered the original and the NICB
report for approximately double the Rosen fee.And as far as im
concerned the NICB on a Baldwin Motion car not a Motion car is more valuable than Joels letter.The new owner told me he wanted the paperwork ive contacted him several times and im done wasting my time.NO ABSOLUTELY NOT did i hold the paperwork hostage,what about the $2000 grand i gave Joel and the 7months of leg work?HUH I OWN THE PAPER WORK THE CAR IS DOCUMENTED IN MY NAME IF ANYBODY WANTS IT THE PRICE JUST WENT UP BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW IT ALLS.I WOULD TO LOVE TO SEE THE PAPERWORK WITH THE CAR BUT IM NOT GIVING ANYONE MY TIME OR MONEY AND OWE NOBODY HERE OR ELSEWHERE ANYTHING.YOU GUYS ARE 100% THE REASON WHY MY DOCUMENTED NICB REPORTED CARS WILL NEVER BE LISTED HERE,JOEL
WANTED TO HIRE MY SERVICES WHICH I DECLINED,BUT FOR YOU KNOW IT ALLS HAVE A GOOD DAY IVE CHANGED MY MIND PAPERWORK IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON REPLIES I WILL NO LONGER BE LOGGING ON.

[PeteLeathersac]

Please note my posting said if this was the situation I thought you were just in what you were doing but it would be tough to do..
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You're not the only one who loses their patience here every now and then...so please reconsider leaving as it looks like you're someone who belongs here!.

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~ Pete

[PxTx]

I'm not sure I follow this, and it's a shame when a guy gets all bent like this when he has only posted a few times.

67nickeycamaro, found a car, got the NICB and Rosen letter in his name, the car appreciated form this effort and was sold without the original paperwork? Did 67nickeycamaro sell it the car, or did he doccument it out of his pocket for someone else? I'm getting the impression he didn't sell it and did not gain form the appreciation of the car. It's kinda unclear and I'm sorry if you can't understand why people would like ot understand the situation more clearly.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67nickeycamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... I OWN THE PAPER WORK THE CAR IS DOCUMENTED IN MY NAME IF ANYBODY WANTS IT THE PRICE JUST WENT UP BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW IT ALLS.

... IVE CHANGED MY MIND PAPERWORK IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </div></div>

Common man, lighten up. It's never a good idea to reply when you're mad, but you probably know than and just got caught up in the moment. A more positive discussion might help you recover form your investment. Right now, you're out cash for a car you don't own.

How about you consider talking about this more. You bring up a good point about the NICB report, and if the present owner see's that a popular opinion agrees with your point about the NICB, you might stand a better chance of making it back up.

Sometimes you'll have to rely on your thick skin around here but I would welcome you to return to this discussion. We're really not all as bad as you've grouped us in as being.

[x Baldwin Motion]

Seriously, it is not clear if you owned the car and sold it without the paper work or offered it at an additional cost or you acquired documentation for a car that was not yours. This is not a witch hunt, just trying to understand the circumstances of having valuable paper separate from car.
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[Tarrytown SS427s]

67NickeyCamaro is also user &quot;dave tadder&quot; who posted on here a while back. Obviously still a fan of the caps lock key:

Post on 8/27/07:
HELLO EVERYBODY HERES THE NEWS I GUESS YOU WERE ALL DISCUSSING AND NOT BELIEVING ON HERE SOMETIME AGO ABOUT ROCKYS ROCKET.WELL ROCKY HAS OWNED THE GEM SINCE 1980 AND STILL OWNS IT TODAY THOUGH I HAVE SOME INTEREST IN THE CAR AND THATS BETWEEN HIM AND I.SO HMMMMMMMMMM WERE DO I START WELL WE HAVE THE JOEL ROSEN LETTER I GUESS THAT SAYS ENOUGH BUT I WILL CONTINUE JOEL ALSO AUTOGRAPHED THE DRIVER VISOR AND NOS REAR QUARTER GLASS STICKERS BUT TOLD US NOT TO REMOVE THE ORIGINAL ONES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PEELING FROM THE GLASS AND TO RUN THE REAR BUMPER THATS ON THE CAR BECAUSE THE REAR BALDWIN STICKER HAS NEVER BEEN REPRODUCED AND HE HAS NONE TO OFFER.LET ME CONTINUE WE ALSO HAVE THE NICB REPORT AND FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS LET ME TAKE THE TIME TO TELL YOU WELL ITS A NATIONAL DATA BANK THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE CAN ENTER AND DONT ASK ME HOW TO ENTER OR HOW WE HAD IT ENTERED BECAUSE EVEN JOEL WAS WONDERING BUT THE NICB KEEPS TRACK OF EVERY CAR DELIVERED NEW TO A DEALERSHIP AND WHAT DOES THE REPORT SAY WELL YOU GUESSED IT ROCKYS CAR WAS DELIVERED TO BALDWIN AUTO ON FEB 28TH 1968.
SO LETS SEE THE CAR HAS THE JOEL LETTER,ITS AUTOGRAPHED BY JOEL,IT HAS THE NICB REPORT OH LET ME CONTINUE I RESEARCHED THE OWNERSHIP OF THE CAR AND FOUND 6 PREVIOUS OWNERS DATING BACK TO LATE 69 EARLY 70 SO I HAD LETTERS TYPED UP AND SENT THEM TO ALL THE PREVIOUS OWNERS 3 WHO LIVED IN WILLIAMSPORT P.A ONE WHO LIVED IN CANTON P.A AND ONE WHO LIVED IN ELMIRA HEIGHTS N.Y AND ONE IN HORSEHEADS N.Y AND THERE ALL SIGNED AND NOTARIZED SAYING THE CAR WAS A BALDWIN MOTION AND THE GUY FROM CANTON P.A WHO OWNED THE CAR IN 73 HAD PHOTOS OF THE CAR SO I GUESS THE CAR HAS THE JOEL LETTER IS AUTOGRAPHED BY JOEL HAS THE NICB REPORT AND HAS DOCUMENTED OWNER HISTORY.SO MY QUESTIONS TO YOU GUYS IS THIS,THE CAR IS A DOCUMENTED 1968 BALDWIN MOTION SS427 CAMARO I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW PHASE THREE 68S OUT THERE BUT DO YOU GUYS KNOW OF ANOTHER SS427 CAR????? CAR HAS ALL ORIGINAL SHEETMETAL AND HAS BEEN FRAME OFF AND CURRENTLY BEING PAINTED AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO PREVIOUSLY STATED THE STRIPE WAS TO WIDE ON THE CAR WELL JOEL ROSEN THOUGHT MAYBE JUST MAYBE IT WAS TO BUT WASNT FOR SURE ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS IF HES NOT FOR SURE THE ONLY THING WE CAN USE AS GROUNDS OF HOW WIDE THE STRIPE IS GONNA BE WHEN IT COMES BACK FROM BEING PAINTED IS THE PHOTOS WE HAVE FROM 1973.HOPE IVE LAID TO REST ANY IFS ON THE CAR AND IM REALLY NOT RUDE JUST TRYING TO GET THE POINT ACROSS.I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS ONE IS, IS THERE ANY OTHER DOCUMENTED SS427 CARS AND NOT PHASE THREES LIKE MARKS AND KEVINS CARS AND LAST AND NOT LEAST THIS CAR WILL BE FOR SALE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS OR SO, SO FELLAS WITH THE BIG CHECKBOOKS GET READY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS FOR ME I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THEM I HAVE CORRESPONDED FOR 7MONTHS WITH JOEL EITHER BY THE COMPUTER OR BY PHONE AND EVEN TALKED TO HIM IN PERSON LAST YEAR IN CARLISLE AT THE CAMARO NATIONALS PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECTLY AT [email protected]
I DONT ENTER THIS SITE OFTEN AND NEITHER DOES ROCKY BUT ALL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS CAN COME TO ME THANX FOR READING THIS EXTREMELY LONG LETTER BUT THE CAR DESERVES IT AND SO DONT YOU SUPER CAR AND MOTION FANS.KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!! DAVE TADDER

Not really sure what the purpose of this thread one NICB papers is, other than to try and stir things up.

[wheelhop]

That was a TAD(DER) bit long of a post

[PxTx]

Kinda makes you feel out of breath too!

[ssl78396]

Don't Do It.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]
There Trying To Lure You In To Be There Punching Bag. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]
Just One Shot..Just One Shot Buddy.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]

[John Brown]

This is one of the reasons the classified ads were made read only. I call [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't Do It.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]
There Trying To Lure You In To Be There Punching Bag. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]
Just One Shot..Just One Shot Buddy.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]
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Huh?