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So you are saying that the cowl tag to my car was actually made 'some time' prior to 07C ??...and my car was moved up and started built prior to 07C and 07 B for that matter?...and that the other car which had it's cowl tag made prior to my car (07B), waiting to be started until 07B ?? and therfore had a later VIN than mine?
I'm still not quite sure if this is what you are explaining.... thanks for the response. sorry to hi-jack the thread..but I guess it is the same basic scenario with these two Indy cars. |
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Body number has never had any bearing on production scheduling.
124379N569358 has been correctly recognized for years as ZL-1/COPO Camaro #1 by virtue of having the lowest VIN. It does NOT have the lowest [222002] body number. Of all ZL-1s the #3 car 124379N608193 has the lowest body number by a wide margin: 211785. Next in body number order is the #14 ZL-1 222001. #1 & #2 were built December 30, 1968. #3 was likely built the 1st week of March 1969. The remainder of Gibbs' ZL-1s were not built in body number order either even though they were ordered at the same time and grouped by color. The same holds true for '69 Yenko Camaros. The lowest VIN 124379N578693 isn't even close to the lowest body number in the first group of cars Yenko ordered. In fact, of all the known cars it has one of the highest numbers in the first group. In any group the lowest VIN is the earliest produced, period. John Z who was there has stated that, all of the evidence [Canadian Shipping Records are by VIN; CRG db] supports it. The discussion continues because a few people believe they have something to gain by bending the truth.
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You have to go by the VIN. This is silly. Using the body number to say it was the first one built is kind of lame.
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Yes, the tags were made up sometime prior to the actual contruction of the car, based on an estimate of when the parts for that car would be available. I wuldn't be surprised if all the 07C tags were not all set to go at the beginning of the 07B build week. GM was getting roughly 1100 Camaro orders a day, 80 to 85% of these came to Norwood. There are huge logistical issues with getting the individual parts for those cars to the factory on time to build each and every car. So GM determines what cars will be built and approximately when they want the car assembled, and they send the order over to Fisher who enters the info for the car (body number trim codes, etc) and they commence to gather the raw material, or finished products necessary to assemble those cars to satisfy GMs schedule. Keep in mind this happens every day for a new batch of 912 cars, so there has to be a few days (maybe a weeks)notice to allow for shipment of material. So if your cars order was all made up and ready to go for the next week, and someone started crying about not having the car (dealer, zone office, whoever), or some other order for a similar car got cancelled, they could move yours up and reshuffle the schedule a little.
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