Tyler's Car

[L34Pace]

As far as I'm concerned if a guy wants to make a simple statement saying he has the first 67 festival pace car replica by Vehicle Identification Number sequence he shouldn't have to be subjected to the inquisition. Thats a nice car you have but I like its big brother you just added to the IPC stable better.

[Zedder]

I get such a laugh out of those threads Great car Tyler!!!

[Kurt S]

I would call that thread disrespectful. Even though JohnZ always responds professionally, that same courtesy is not shown to him.
John is the biggest asset this hobby has. He is in the National Corvette Museum Hall of Fame (only the 2nd historian if I recall correctly) and gives selflessly and freely to the hobby (be it Nova, Camaro, Corvair, Corvette, Viper, Firebird, etc).

The IPC guys sure are making a name for themselves....

[old5.0]

[txrsss]

Kurt,

Yes, John is a great asset. Whether it be on the CRG site, IPC site, etc. But, I'd appreciate that you show the respect to everyone on the IPC site by not lumping them in together. You don’t seem to remember that I was a CRG associate at one time. I was a member of both sites and it seems to me the powers that be couldn’t handle it. I usually tend to not get involved in these discussions on both sites. But, you need to realize when you throw a grenade, innocent people get hit by shrapnel. I don’t care what was first or who is out of line. Leave this on the playground where it belongs.

Mike <font color="red"> </font> <font color="black"> </font> <font color="black"> </font>

[iluv69s]

Wow...this reminds me of the thread about the last 67 Z-28...my car is the only cowl dated 07C 67 Z..and only some 200 cars from the end of production. But apparently there is an 07B 67 Z with a later VIN....that thread (and friendly argument)went on for weeks...
I still do not understand if my car was ordered last...built last..or delivered last...
So I always state the facts.."the last cowl dated 67 Z known"

Have fun with this thread !!!

[Mark_C]

Your car was sheduled to be built later as evidenced by the 07C code, but after the tag was stamped it was pulled forward in production for whatever reason Fisher or GM had. The Trim tags (or the computer cards that created them were done days, if not a week prior to the start of contruction of the body they were intended to go on). So if someone decided they needed a particular car a week earlier, they could just pull that tag (and by tag i mean the entire paperwork package that went with that body number and tag) out of its holder and bring it forward, or conversely delay it for a day, week, whatever. The tags were not spit out of a machine and riveted to the cowl as they came out of the machine. If your VIN is lower that the 07B VIN your car physically came down the line first, if its Higher it came down after. Pretty simple concept,every time a car came thur the wall from Fisher to GM the VIN counter advanced by 1 number the VIN was then recorded against that particular body number, assigned a sequence number (crayon marking on the firewall) and released into the Body bank for sequencing out into GMs side of the plant.

[iluv69s]

So you are saying that the cowl tag to my car was actually made 'some time' prior to 07C ??...and my car was moved up and started built prior to 07C and 07 B for that matter?...and that the other car which had it's cowl tag made prior to my car (07B), waiting to be started until 07B ?? and therfore had a later VIN than mine?

I'm still not quite sure if this is what you are explaining.... thanks for the response.

sorry to hi-jack the thread..but I guess it is the same basic scenario with these two Indy cars.

[Kurt S]

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But, I'd appreciate that you show the respect to everyone on the IPC site by not lumping them in together. You don’t seem to remember that I was a CRG associate at one time. I was a member of both sites and it seems to me the powers that be couldn’t handle it.
Mike

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Mike,
Yes, it's really 3-5 IPC guys that set the tone so noone else wants to post. And anyone who disagrees, gets booted.
If it's not right, then the other members need to help change the tone &amp; culture of the site or guilt by association. People regularly tell me they won't post on the IPC site just for that reason.
Noone in CRG had any issues with you being a member of both groups, I don't recall it ever coming up - you didn't have the time to participate. In fact, Rich told you to contact us if you had the time in the future.

[SS427]

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Yes, it's really 3-5 IPC guys that set the tone so noone else wants to post. And anyone who disagrees, gets booted.
If it's not right, then the other members need to help change the tone &amp; culture of the site or guilt by association. People regularly tell me they won't post on the IPC site just for that reason.


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Too many sites are becoming this way nowadays and it is no wonder a lot of people keep their knowledge to themselves and not post anymore. For fear of being booted or shuned because they are guilty by association and are afraid to post their opinion even when done so diplomatically. I wish more sites would remember who makes up these sites.