COPO VALUES IN GENERAL

[talwell]

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That's an interesting comment to a fellow SYC member. Not to be disrespectful, but if there wasn't Mopar or Ford guys or those cars to be compared to...then the Copo's would not be worth as much as they are. It would be a pretty boring day at the strip.

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I have to disagree with you on this comment. I do not think that there is any parallel in value considerations between the COPO cars and any other brand offerings. The cars stand on thier own and what happens with other cars does not have any affect on thier value. What does affect thier value is the economy and what buyers can or are willing to pay.

[paris401]

my only point was what makes a cuda valuable is the hemi, same as what makes a copo special is the 427.

as a owner of numerous mopars, and a few chevy's , incl a copo as well as a BM , i'll state what i always say when i am at a mopar gathering...

i luv mopars, but when i wanta go fast, i take out a chevy.. and i don't say it to bust balls, its the truth...

[rockn69]

I'm a Chevy fan as most are on this site. My comment was intended to allow a little space to those who may own other brands than bowties. Of course pricing is driven by economy and the willingness of someone to open up their pocket book, but the muscle car craze has generated and thrown all supercars into this high priced arena. I think the Big Three all help keep the interest and pricing of these cars up in the stratosphere they are in. Just my 2 cents

[camarojoe]

rockn69, if you go to the main forum page, you'll see there is an entire section called "Other Muscle" that was created for non-Chevrolet cars and discussion, and its no secret many members own and are interested in other makes of cars besides Chevrolet. No one's ever been told not to discuss other makes on this site. But it should be noted that Chevrolet based supercars are the top dogs here, always have been...always will be.

[Postsedan]

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I'm a Chevy fan as most are on this site. My comment was intended to allow a little space to those who may own other brands than bowties. Of course pricing is driven by economy and the willingness of someone to open up their pocket book, but the muscle car craze has generated and thrown all supercars into this high priced arena. I think the Big Three all help keep the interest and pricing of these cars up in the stratosphere they are in. Just my 2 cents

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Pat,

I`m lov`n your passion

Dan.

[MultiMopars]

Some comments since my last post addressing others.

My original purpose for this thread was to learn the true values of these cars today. I also wanted to compare them to the best comparible factory built car of the day . The Boss 429 could have been thrown in as well but I don't think they made anywhere near the numbers so I did not include them. I know there is another forum for other muscle but this thread has more to do with the COPOs than other muscle.

I think that WIW posts do a lot for a web site. They often either bring people to the site to post that know of an unknown car or possibly do the same with others that have been here for a while and are laying in the weeds.

These muscle car prices have PRIMARILY been driven by their h.p. and their reputations on the race tracks. The body styles do play a role as well and when you mix the two in a FACTORY combination it really brings on the interest/value.

Yes, a Hemi powered E body jacks the price up, but that is all a COPO Camaro is as well, just the addition of the big engine and what came with it, take that away and it is just another Camaro.

Generally I compare muscle cars from make to make based on the factory h.p. ratings and usually the pricing is close. There are a few exceptions. When we get into the 425 h.p. and above cars, the true h.p. is often hidden in those factory ratings for insurance purposes of the day. They are rated at rpm ranges that are not the true potential of that engines.

For the most part six pack Mopars are 1/2 or less than a hemi in the same body with the exception of the 1969 six pack Bees and RRs as the price of Hemi cars in those body styles has slipped more than the values of the 69 six pack cars.

For the short period of time I have been here I will agree that there seems to be a vast amount of knowledge of all makes which is nice to see.

Regarding the comment of which make is faster I would not BEGIN to open that arguement here other than to say that is what dragstrips are for. We all know that there are so many varables with the old car magazine test of the day that any of the cars being tested could have been beaten by it's factory competitor on any given day. This is what makes this hobby so much fun.

[bergy]

great discussion guys - gotta love this site! Just my two cents - but I (and I believe many others on this site) love the late '60 through early '70s US muscle car era. That's why I collect cars from that period. Hemi Challenger, COPO Camaro, A/C Cobra, and '67 GT500 are my favorites - that's why they're in my garage. When you see them sitting side by side - it's a great sight. COPO Camaro will always be my favorite of all though!

[Jeff H]

With the COPO Camaros, the values can be a broad range depending on original drivetrain, paperwork, know history, etc. Assuming you are referring to a car that is original drivetrain with paperwork and a proper restoration, I would guess the COPO 427/425hp cars are still in the $200-250K range. I really don't have any recent sales information though so it's a guess based on asking prices. COPO cars with non original drivetrain or no paperwork seem to be under $200K but again that's a guesstimate. There's really no reason to compare them to any other make/model of car because it comes down to supply and demand. Maybe if anyone knowing of any real recent sales could chime it the price window might be better defined.

[69 Post Sedan]

I personally think the Hemi cars are great cars but over inflated.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it was a lot easier to get a Hemi back in the day than it was to get a COPO?