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Old 12-18-2009, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: 68 COPO CAMARO EBAY?

If I remember correctly, the box on the buildsheet (at least in '69) said "COPO or F&SO"...so either the "COPO" or the "Fleet & Special Order" number would be in that particular box. So apparently, a fleet or special order didn't necessarily mean COPO...right?!?
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:19 AM
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From Jim Mattison, who worked in the Central Office and processed the orders:
"During the years that I was a part of this group, we processed many orders for vehicles with special paint. Although these vehicles were ordered with "special paint", they are not concidered to be COPO cars. I'm surprised that more of these "special paint" cars haven't shown-up, as many of these orders were for performance cars."


The special paint cars just required an approval and costing. A FSO # would be assigned. 1001xA SPECIAL PAINT would be on the window sticker.

COPO's required thought and engineering. How are we going to modify this truck chassis to be 10.5 inches longer? What radiator to cool a 427 in a Camaro? The COPO # was a different format and would appear on the window sticker with the cost of the COPO.

Here's a page from Chevrolet Engineering News, December 65.

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What yr did the COPO process start? When GM built cars like the Blackwidow, would they have gone through the same channels?
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: 68 COPO CAMARO EBAY?

Good question on the '57 Widow cars as I believe the model year the Copo designation was first used was 1958?.

Also didn't SO in 'Copo & FSO' refer to Shop Order not Special Order?.


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Good info by Kurt S.

That answers my question about the paint order process which indicates a special order paint car is NOT a COP order.
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Good question on the '57 Widow cars as I believe the model year the Copo designation was first used was 1958?.

Also didn't SO in 'Copo & FSO' refer to Shop Order not Special Order?.


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Weren't the black widows "technically" built by SEDCO at Nalley Chevrolet, and not G.M.? Maybe because there was no well established COPO process at the time?
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If I remember correctly, the box on the buildsheet (at least in '69) said "COPO or F&SO"...so either the "COPO" or the "Fleet & Special Order" number would be in that particular box. So apparently, a fleet or special order didn't necessarily mean COPO...right?!? For the 69 Camaros the option is titled COPO and then further defined as to what type of Copo by letter designation. Each of the components that are included in the Copo option are then listed.The RPO options follow on a separate format

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The FS&O numbers were plant specific and sequential in format. Like the 67 Pacecars have FS&O numbers FN061 (and others) for Fleet, Norwood job number 061 indicated in that box on the Body Broadcast Sheet, then down on the bottom of the form was the wording PACE CAR PNT PER FS&O, indicating the car was a pacecar and it should be painted per FS&O number 061. COPOs carried other dsignations in that box and had a pack of engineering documentation that went along with them indicating what was RPO and what was additonal material needed to assemble the car.
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