Ken Veit's 69 Camaro runs 10.65 on GY Polyglass

[Chevy454]

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Stock Eliminator cars are not cut up on mini tubbed. Talked to one of my racing buddies back east who knows a little about the FAST cars. Many are guarded about letting anyone see the engine bay.....period. Hoods are closed most of the time too. What's to hide?

Not like this at INDY in the tear down barn.

Bob

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"Stock Eliminator" cars may not be (as bad), but Super/Stock cars are...and that's what you referenced above when you mentioned Armstrong's SS/AA car. NHRA says the S/S cars are a bit more "liberal" in regards to chassis mods, which is an understatement!

As for the hoods closed on a FAST car, was your friend in the lanes, in the pits, etc? Frankly, though, who cares(!), because the rules say the engine compartment *must* look stock, and they do, and a pretty thorough lookie-lou is part of the tech procedure right off the bat...and several of the cars get yanked to the side later and asked for an even more indepth inspection. And, Stock & Super/Stock cars aren't exactly forth coming in opening their hoods, either...and they're only open in the tech barn because they *have* to be!

I've been to a vast majority of these FAST races, since before they were organized as FAST, and I still run with that series to this day (in our Factory Stock car), and I can tell you, the cars *look* stock, inside & out...I've seen them with MY OWN eyes, and I'm kicking around stepping into the FAST playground myself. These cars look "Factory Appearing", just like their title says...what's so hard to figure out here?

Again, here are the RULES.

[Chevy454]

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I'd like to dress up John Armstrong's SS/AA Corvette 427 in the FAST class and stick it in that car. I'm sure the ET and MPH would be off the charts. Especially the MPH.

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And while I'm on a roll, lemme add this little gem...

It's a tad presumptuous to think that Armstrong could instantly build a car that would trump anything that the top guys in the FAST series are doing...I'll guarantee you that Terry Pennington (FAST record holder with a 10.3x) and Dave Dudek (FAST mph record holder at 134+), have their ducks in a row...and that goes for nearly the entire FAST field. Armstrong is good at what he does...no he's GREAT at what he does...but while these FAST guys may have been born at night, it wasn't *last* night!

Just my $.02...and Merry Christmas, everyone!

[1968 nova ss]

hey ,2 of my favorite classes are stock eliminator and F.A.S.T..I know some stock eliminator guys that redrill the bottom aframe bolt location and then fill in the old holes.So you can;t say some of these guys don;t have a few tricks up their sleeves.F.A.S.T. guys like Dudek and terry Pennington,Veit etc, are guys that have done their homework and have spent many hours on the dyno's.i think they are all smart guys and ,fill lucky to have these in the musclecar industries.me personally, am a purestocker guy;and plan on dynoing this 396/375 hp motor in afew weeks.chris

[1968 nova ss]

i spoke to mr.tilberg a while back .top of the game guy, for sure.Chris

[Berger RS Copo]

My take on these cars is they look like someone took an original car, put a cage in it, aftermarket gauges and belts. That being said, I realize that 90% of the mods you can't see. But they look amazingly stock-much more so than the average 60's or 70's car at a bracket race running much slower! I have never had a problem looking at every square inch of these cars,but like almost any racer they won't give away all they know. As a matter of fact, the other thing thats so cool about these cars,as well as the pure stocks, is it's a car show at a drag race!

[71-LS6]

Ken actually made a few minor suspension mods before he hit the new number, they helped. No traction control, fully treaded tires, 1.60's for 60' times, and one of the 2 best looking cars in the class.

[SSRSBOB]

Small world.

My boys and I just crated up our 302 engine and sent to Mc Neish's CHP after watching video and performance of their '67 Z28 stocker and talking to them in great detail about performance resto engine rebuilds. After talking to them, also found out that they also are doing engine work for Ken Veit too! Now I know that I sent our Z28 engine to the right place! Thanks for the tips here.

Bob