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Old 12-12-2009, 11:07 PM
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no taxes were paid by the buyer ...

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Did this transaction take place in Arizona or California? As an AZ. resident you certainly know there is no tax paid on a private party sale, right? This WAS a private party sale and the dealer acting as a salesman is not under any obligation to collect any tax.

If the car was sold on a bill of sale in California but DELIVERED in AZ. there STILL is no tax due. These types of deals have been taking place legally for years.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:19 PM
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he bought it in CA

He made the check out to the dealer in CA (Sacramento?)

He had it delivered to AZ

the issue came up when he had produced the paperwork for AZ DMV, they didn't match

He did not have a receipt from the name on the title, only from the dealer and there was no reassignment of the title by the dealer
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:05 AM
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he bought it in CA

He made the check out to the dealer in CA (Sacramento?)

He had it delivered to AZ

the issue came up when he had produced the paperwork for AZ DMV, they didn't match

He did not have a receipt from the name on the title, only from the dealer and there was no reassignment of the title by the dealer

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I was the Director of Fleet Sales for Brown & Brown Nissan and sold 1000s of cars to autobrokers in the surrounding states. When you are trying to pay minimum tax (as taxes are different state to state) you can have a car transported to the state with the tax advantage and pay the tax there as it is DELIVERED there.

It would depend on how the receipt was written from the dealer. If he showed it as a consignment then he was simply orchastrating the passage of title for the seller. If AZ DMV had a problem with this they would have asked for a bill of sale from the owner of record. It would be up to the DMV offical to make the call. The main thing they would consider is the title and who's name it was in and if it was prpoerly signed off on. My GUESS would be that the buyer complicated things by providing a bill of sale for the car, which is not necessary to transfer the title from private seller to private buyer. Showing a bill of sale written on a dealers invoice WOULD raise a red flag for taxation in this case, but from what you have laid out here it is all "explainable."
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs

I suppose so

AZ DMV can be picky

it was difficult because of the way it was done I guess, THEN they got the news that it was stolen (39 years prior), then the police were called and everything went to "hell in a handbasket" real quick.

They weren't allowed to get anything of theirs out of the car (cell phone, water bottle, PURSE, etc) until the police arrived

the car was left OUTSIDE in the impound yard all summer (Yeah, a restored Corvette convertible sitting in the AZ summer sun and dust and monsons), apparently the inside storage is only for drug dealers cars ...
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: Man Reunited with Stolen Corvette After 39 Yrs

Here is another example of the same story - VW found after being stolen 35 years ago. In this case the insurance paid the owner for the car and it was given to the insurance company.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125790137076542665.html
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