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Old 12-10-2009, 05:37 AM
MultiMopars MultiMopars is offline
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Default Re: Survivors - Where is the line drawn?

If I were going to write a desciption for a car show judging in order to qualify it would be:

1. 80% original paint. You have to allow for an early on painted panel due to a large scratch or panel ding.

2. Original interior componants.

3. Original drive train.

4. Wear componants such as belts, hoses, tires, plugs, exhaust systems, and plug wires would not have to be original but should be original type products. Most of these thing simpy don't last in our envirovent simply because of age and if left original and driven or run can be the cause of serious damage to the car.

5. Other componants such as carbs, air cleaners, alternators, v.reg., starters, water pumps, rads., exhaust manifolds, etc. would be original parts.

This would be the requirements for admission to a survivor class.

If they were going to be judged in competition in this special class there would be a sliding scale for the condition of these items with some type of "special" points awarded for the trailer queens that are not driven. However these points would be "extra" points that would not necessarily the difference in winning the class. This would be done to encourage driving the cars. After all, that is what they are for. The trailer queen cars that get the "extra" points would recieve a "special" award because of their condition.

I did this quickly and certainly have overlooked some things that others will think of. Just my OPINION on this subject. Now, what did I overlook.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: Survivors - Where is the line drawn?

What about an engine. It can go both ways. Think of all the Corvettes, Chevelles and Camaros that got road hard within 10,000 miles and blew a rod out the side or dropped a valve. Engine stuff I love born with like all of us, but can also see paperwork with a CE and still be 90% happy. Aftermarket hoses and belts like from Gates back in the day are great. So as long as its period correct from when it was like 10 years old and what one would see at the Service Station.

A survivor to me is one that GM sprayed paint on 75% of it and it still showing a 7.0 or higher on a scale of 1-10.

Tires- How many miles have you got out of set back in the day? Even today on my driver I go through a set or two a summer. Original born with ones are cool and should be awarded a notch or a point for it, but it shouldn't be deducted for having some repro or back in the day replacements.



I think there is a market into setting a standard for this...and coming up with a board of lets say 21 people to write a book on this.
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