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Old 12-09-2009, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: Tragic 69 Camaro Crash of the Year !!!!!!!

Poor poor Camaro. What a shame. I really hope it get's fixed. This isn't the first trailer related accident I've seen lately and it definitley isn't the first accident regarding muscle cars going or coming from shows either.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:27 AM
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Jim,

I'm curious to know, was the car thrown from the trailer? Or did the straps hold it to the trailer and when the emergency crews got there they removed it?

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Old 12-09-2009, 03:46 AM
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The car was thrown from the trailer snapped the tie downs on the deck on rear. 1 tie down still attached to the trailer 1 still on the car bent the daylights out of the racthets.


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Old 12-09-2009, 04:17 AM
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I agree. It's fixable. I'd want to set it on a frame machine before anybody cut on it. JMHO
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:31 AM
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Can some one take the very first picture that is an attachement in the beginning of this post and put here to show how it all ended up Please. Thanks Jim
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:40 AM
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Can some one take the very first picture that is an attachement in the beginning of this post and put here to show how it all ended up Please. Thanks Jim

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Old 12-09-2009, 04:43 AM
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Jim... did the truck have a brake controller? it shouldn't have jacknifed if it did, and was adjusted correctly...
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:45 AM
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Brand new and worked fine. I towed that trailer after it had flipped 700 miles home with NO problems Brakes worked great we both have the same controller. Again there was no damage to the A front frame of the trailer which would have been there from jacknifing together. My speculation from being there and tring to figure it out with people at the scene for hours was as jeff moved sharply to the left lane the ball broke seperating the trailer , the momentum pushed the nose of the trailer into the left rear bumper throwing everything into a backwards move rotating the truck to strike the guardrail with the drivers side doors as confirmed by Jeff. The saftey chains pulled everything around and as the brakes locked it went down the ravine tumbling until the chains gave up. remember the brakes have a 2 second delay and this happend in a split second. The truck looks like the car and the trailer went right over the roof and ejected the car as it rolled for the second time.

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Old 12-09-2009, 03:57 PM
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that makes sense then.... you can adjust the delay to about 2 tenths of a second though the gain adjustment, a 2 second delay can be fatal, as you've traveled more than 4-5 times the total length of the tow rig, or about 300 ++' before the trailer brakes are energized to the adjusted strength. He was over the rail and headed down the hill before the brakes were energized.
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:51 PM
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I cant tell you exactly what the delay was but its not instant I used that number as a reference. but there is always a momentary time delay before they engerize. He has towed for 20 plus years so it wasn't new to him.

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