How rare is a 69 Camaro Rosewood radio delete ???

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The last real one I saw was a picture of one that Charley had. I think the only way you would get one in a Camaro was if you ordered deluxe interior and no radio. That sounds like a very rare combintation to me.

[Charley Lillard]

There are a bunch of fakes out there that come out of I think a buick. A orig one has the woodgrain panel studded thru a black delete. same part # on the black plate. I have pics somewhere.

[396L35]

Charley I will post the pictures of the one I bought from you years back... Mark

[396L35]

Here is some pictures of the one I bought from Charley. Some of these are his pictures and some are mine of the same plate. Then I have another set from an auction years back that still retains the GM stickers. Enjoy... Mark

[Kurt S]

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I think the only way you would get one in a Camaro was if you ordered deluxe interior and no radio.

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Actually, it would be console, deluxe (Z87), or special int (Z23). All of those would put woodgrain on the driver's side.
http://www.camaros.org/interior.shtml#1969Woodgrain

[MultiMopars]

Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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That would currently be known as a "radio block-off plate".
Feel free to join with the "many others" that have this pet peeve and call it what you like.

[MultiMopars]

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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That would currently be known as a "radio block-off plate".
Feel free to join with the "many others" that have this pet peeve and call it what you like.

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Is that what the GM parts book refers to it as?

I am not certain of ALL the different actual terms the different manufacturers referred to them as, but I DO know that the term "radio delete" is definately NOT correct. That was my only point here.

[iluv69s]

I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???

[camarojoe]

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I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???

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An AM radio was never "standard". Any radio was optional/extra cost equipment. Most got it, but unless specifically ordered, you got the block off/delete plate, as well as a taped-in cardboard blackout cover that went under the dash where the speaker opening was, as well as a plastic plug in the door jamb where the antenna would normally pass through.

Because these cars were already set up for a radio, including a hole in the plastic dash housing with 2 separate circular openings for the volume and tune knobs (the cluster even has VOL and TUNE molded into it, which gets covered by the block off/delete plate) as well as a speaker grille in the metal dash, and hole for the antenna, IMO, calling it a "delete" plate is ok, even though it was indeed optional equipment to actually have the radio installed.