yenko camaro

[camarojoe]

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Maybe when "WE" think of Yenko's as 427 cars "WE" are not really a Yenko enthusiast. One of only a handful of Yenko conceived COPO Camaros is a special car, and certainly NOT a family car as you refer to it as. Any Yenko performance car has a special place in history. What a value is, seems to be for most the only thing they think about. I'll take any L/78 or 302 Yenko performance cars that nobody else doesn't want. When you show me the next 68 COPO 396 Yenko Camaro let me in on it first. IS a Mr.Norm Hemi car just another Hemi? I doubt it to most. Its the dealer name connected to the car. I imagine most MoPar collectors would rather have a Mr Norm car..BKH

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Well said! ..and I agree. Heck, I'd take ANY cool 60's Chevy originally sold through Yenko vs. one sold elsewhere...

[MultiMopars]

I think you have mis-interpeted what I was trying to say.

It is funny that you use the example of a Mr. norm's hemi car. It makes no difference WHAT dealer sold a car like that unless it has something to do with that dealer had something to do with it being something different than a car that any other dealer could have sold.

The difference with a Yenko conversion car or a Yenko COPO car is that they were the first ones to DO it or realize they could make such an order. therefore they were only done buy them. It is what the car actually WAS, not the DEALER that happened to THINK of it or do it.

Anyone that "buys into" the idea that a car is worth more because it was something that was order/sold sold by a particular DEALER that was also available from any other dealer that sold the same thing is just kidding themselves. There were dealers all over the country that sold those same cars.

Now if you were comparing it to something like a 1968 Mr. Norm's GSS (the car that set the stage for the later 1969 440 Darts) it would be a comparable example to a Yenko early conversion or later COPO that Yenko as well as a few other dealers that also ordered COPO cars it would be a like comparision.

The 1968 GSS was ONLY available from Mr. Norm's and therefore makes it something "special" with regards to the dealer it came from simply because he was the only one offering them. He had to commit to buy a minimum of 50 before Chrysler would build them.

[bkhpah]

I agree to disagree with you on this one..BKH

[MultiMopars]

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I agree to disagree with you on this one..BKH

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No problem there. We all have our own options and what some people choose to asign value to is their own business with regards to how they spend THEIR money.

Your not the first and certainly will not be the last to disagree with me.

[P.J.]

My original question was Why is this Camaro a Copo??
Why is my 68 Camaro l78 m22 488 factory orderd ss not a copo
just like the one on cars on line??????My car has just about as much history and maybe a little more.
pj

[rafbody]

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My original question was Why is this Camaro a Copo??
Why is my 68 Camaro l78 m22 488 factory orderd ss not a copo
just like the one on cars on line??????My car has just about as much history and maybe a little more.
pj

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Was your car ordered with the COPO 9737 options as this car was. If it was, then it is a COPO.

[bkhpah]

The '68 COPO Yenko Camaros were the first ever hi-po Camaros ordered by Yenko to use as a platform for the 427 program. Specially designed parts were used in these cars. A 140 MPH speedo, a very large for the time 1 1/16inch sway bar, As a matter of fact these were worded by GM as Yenko Sports Car Conversion 9737. Special MV code 396/375 that was emission tested with the 427 engine program in mind. Without these cars, there would most likely be no 427 COPO Camaro as we now it today. These cars used the unique "Magic Mirror" trim plates to further separate them from NORMAL 396 cars. @ 70 units were sent to Yenko, not counting prototypes. This number was chosen for the 50 units NHRA needed to classify these cars for competition. Yenko was considered the manufacturer on these cars. So why are these cars considered rare to some? I guess most users of the Yenko board think that way..BKH

[Steve Shauger]

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The '68 COPO Yenko Camaros were the first ever hi-po Camaros ordered by Yenko to use as a platform for the 427 program. Specially designed parts were used in these cars. A 140 MPH speedo, a very large for the time 1 1/16inch sway bar, As a matter of fact these were worded by GM as Yenko Sports Car Conversion 9737. Special MV code 396/375 that was emission tested with the 427 engine program in mind. Without these cars, there would most likely be no 427 COPO Camaro as we now it today. These cars used the unique "Magic Mirror" trim plates to further separate them from NORMAL 396 cars. @ 70 units were sent to Yenko, not counting prototypes. This number was chosen for the 50 units NHRA needed to classify these cars for competition. Yenko was considered the manufacturer on these cars. So why are these cars considered rare to some? I guess most users of the Yenko board think that way..BKH

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Very well put Brian... There is no doubt these were/are special cars special built and configured cars based Don Yenko's request.

[camarojoe]

I think it's crazy to suggest the selling dealer doesn't mean anything unless the car is an ultra-high performance model. You're telling me if you had a pair of Hemi Challengers side by side, one from Grand Spalding/Mr. Norm and one from Joe Shmoe Dodge down the street, you wouldn't pick the Mr. Norm sold car? Of course you would.

Heck, I'd take an old Chevy C10 Fleetside with a glovebox full of Yenko paper over a similar one from somewhere else... i don't know of too many folks who wouldn't.

[MultiMopars]

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I think it's crazy to suggest the selling dealer doesn't mean anything unless the car is an ultra-high performance model. You're telling me if you had a pair of Hemi Challengers side by side, one from Grand Spalding/Mr. Norm and one from Joe Shmoe Dodge down the street, you wouldn't pick the Mr. Norm sold car? Of course you would.

Heck, I'd take an old Chevy C10 Fleetside with a glovebox full of Yenko paper over a similar one from somewhere else... i don't know of too many folks who wouldn't.

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If they were identical cars I would probably by the Mr. Norm's car simply because I was selling Dodges new from 1968-74 about 150 miles from his dealership and heard his advertisements on WLS radio constantly. Would I pay anything extra for it, NO, not one dime.

The only two things that were different in the two example cars you use is that the Mr. Norm's car would have had a "Dyno Tuned" sticker on the window and a recurved disrtibutor which consisted of different weights in the distributor and reseting the carb when it was on the dyno. Which, BTW was done to ALL of the hipo cars that they sold AND charged extra for which at that time I believe was $20.00 or under. That is the only difference between a car sold there vs. and other Dodge dealer selling a like car.