yenko camaro

[GenOne]

I would love to own that car ...

[AutoInsane]

Should the value of this car be so high? I know it is a well restored low mile car with a really great story but... it is not a 427 Yenko. While I am sure everyone here would love to see it and own it at a fair price would someone pay up to own this novelty?? Should it not command a premium over a 68 396 SS but be worth far less than a 68 Yenko?

[MultiMopars]

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Should the value of this car be so high? I know it is a well restored low mile car with a really great story but... it is not a 427 Yenko. While I am sure everyone here would love to see it and own it at a fair price would someone pay up to own this novelty?? Should it not command a premium over a 68 396 SS but be worth far less than a 68 Yenko?

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Exactly what I was thinking when I read the sales ad description.

Yenko sold a lot of family cars too. When WE think of a Yenko Camaro, WE think of either an early transplanted engine car OR a later COPO that had the factory installed 427. Either way, a 427 car.

[bkhpah]

Maybe when "WE" think of Yenko's as 427 cars "WE" are not really a Yenko enthusiast. One of only a handful of Yenko conceived COPO Camaros is a special car, and certainly NOT a family car as you refer to it as. Any Yenko performance car has a special place in history. What a value is, seems to be for most the only thing they think about. I'll take any L/78 or 302 Yenko performance cars that nobody else doesn't want. When you show me the next 68 COPO 396 Yenko Camaro let me in on it first. IS a Mr.Norm Hemi car just another Hemi? I doubt it to most. Its the dealer name connected to the car. I imagine most MoPar collectors would rather have a Mr Norm car..BKH

[camarojoe]

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Maybe when "WE" think of Yenko's as 427 cars "WE" are not really a Yenko enthusiast. One of only a handful of Yenko conceived COPO Camaros is a special car, and certainly NOT a family car as you refer to it as. Any Yenko performance car has a special place in history. What a value is, seems to be for most the only thing they think about. I'll take any L/78 or 302 Yenko performance cars that nobody else doesn't want. When you show me the next 68 COPO 396 Yenko Camaro let me in on it first. IS a Mr.Norm Hemi car just another Hemi? I doubt it to most. Its the dealer name connected to the car. I imagine most MoPar collectors would rather have a Mr Norm car..BKH

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Well said! ..and I agree. Heck, I'd take ANY cool 60's Chevy originally sold through Yenko vs. one sold elsewhere...

[MultiMopars]

I think you have mis-interpeted what I was trying to say.

It is funny that you use the example of a Mr. norm's hemi car. It makes no difference WHAT dealer sold a car like that unless it has something to do with that dealer had something to do with it being something different than a car that any other dealer could have sold.

The difference with a Yenko conversion car or a Yenko COPO car is that they were the first ones to DO it or realize they could make such an order. therefore they were only done buy them. It is what the car actually WAS, not the DEALER that happened to THINK of it or do it.

Anyone that "buys into" the idea that a car is worth more because it was something that was order/sold sold by a particular DEALER that was also available from any other dealer that sold the same thing is just kidding themselves. There were dealers all over the country that sold those same cars.

Now if you were comparing it to something like a 1968 Mr. Norm's GSS (the car that set the stage for the later 1969 440 Darts) it would be a comparable example to a Yenko early conversion or later COPO that Yenko as well as a few other dealers that also ordered COPO cars it would be a like comparision.

The 1968 GSS was ONLY available from Mr. Norm's and therefore makes it something "special" with regards to the dealer it came from simply because he was the only one offering them. He had to commit to buy a minimum of 50 before Chrysler would build them.

[bkhpah]

I agree to disagree with you on this one..BKH

[P.J.]

My original question was Why is this Camaro a Copo??
Why is my 68 Camaro l78 m22 488 factory orderd ss not a copo
just like the one on cars on line??????My car has just about as much history and maybe a little more.
pj

[HPMIKE]

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I think you have mis-interpeted what I was trying to say.

It is funny that you use the example of a Mr. norm's hemi car. It makes no difference WHAT dealer sold a car like that unless it has something to do with that dealer had something to do with it being something different than a car that any other dealer could have sold.

The difference with a Yenko conversion car or a Yenko COPO car is that they were the first ones to DO it or realize they could make such an order. therefore they were only done buy them. It is what the car actually WAS, not the DEALER that happened to THINK of it or do it.

Anyone that "buys into" the idea that a car is worth more because it was something that was order/sold sold by a particular DEALER that was also available from any other dealer that sold the same thing is just kidding themselves. There were dealers all over the country that sold those same cars.

Now if you were comparing it to something like a 1968 Mr. Norm's GSS (the car that set the stage for the later 1969 440 Darts) it would be a comparable example to a Yenko early conversion or later COPO that Yenko as well as a few other dealers that also ordered COPO cars it would be a like comparision.

The 1968 GSS was ONLY available from Mr. Norm's and therefore makes it something "special" with regards to the dealer it came from simply because he was the only one offering them. He had to commit to buy a minimum of 50 before Chrysler would build them.

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Agree 100%

The Mr. Norm cars are somewhat unique, but as was stated most of the cars that sold out of that dealership were little more than any other car that could have been bought from any other dealer. A little known fact is that there were "super tuners" at MANY dealerships back in the day. They would set up cars for customers all the time.

I am not trying to belittle the heritage of Mr. Norm, but it was a well known fact that Norm was a marketing guy that was cashing in on the musclecar craze at the time. Absollutely nothing wrong with that. But if he told anyone that a 4 barrel equipped car was a better car (street or strip), then he is just flat out wrong. The factory 6 packs were a HUGE upgrade over the iron intake 4V setup. In fact, until the 6 pack version of the 440 wedge was intro'd, the 440-4V really wasn't that hot, at least when compared with aluminum headed high compression BB Chevy's or Ram Air II/IV Pontiacs, Stage I Buicks, etc. The pre 6 pack 440's were actually pretty much the same motor you would find in the average Newport or Fury. One of the main reasons for this I am sure was to not outdo the legendary Hemi. Once Chrysler saw that the public just wasn't buying the amount of Hemi cars as they planned, they quickly came up with a motor in the 6 pack that would be cheaper, easier to run for the masses- and the rest is history.

MB