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Bill, Out of curiosity what is the difference? All have the column lever for the reverse lockout in 69 right? Jason [/ QUOTE ] Jason, Yes they both have the reverse lock out lever, but a column shift tilt column would have a gear shift lever equipt shift bowl, and a floor shift column would have a smooth shift bowl with out the lever. Many times a column shift bowl will be ground off and smoothed over to look like a floor shift unit. I have seen this many times with the very rare 1967 only Chevelle tilt columns. Bill |