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I have a late 1968 dated DZ short block with very low miles. The motor has the correct assembley stampings on the pad, but no VIN # anywhere on the block. Not even the slightest hint of a VIN # on the pad or by the oil filter. The short block has never been decked or even disassembled. Is it common to have a car motor without a VIN #? Where else could this short block came from?
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It was the job of the setup man to change all the gang stamps at the start of the shift.
I worked in several component plants and changing the date was just part of the routine and it always happened...
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The block has the casting date, suffix code, and assembly date, but no VIN #. Would a crate motor than still have a DZ suffix code?
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IT WOULD NOT. it would be a "CE" block
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69 camaro Z-28 burnished brown X-77 bought 1978 70 camaro Z28 forest green M40 black vinyl roof PROJECT 99 camaro SS Hugger Orange 6speed no t-tops 1 of 54 11 cts-v black diamond edition wagon 556hp GONE 15 camaro Z/28 white AC brand new |
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Thats what I thought. I have a CE L-78 motor. I'll have to take some paint off and get a closer look by the oil filter and look for traces of a VIN #.
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Sometimes the VIN# is very, very hard to make out. Make sure that you remove all of the paint and take a picture of the stamp area with a good camera. Crop the picture and blow it up as big as possible. I had to do this with my Pace Car #272 block. I could just make out partial impressions of enough of the charactors to verify the vin.
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A CE L78 block won't have a specific vehicle VIN stamp on it, just an assembly date and or serial #
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Sometimes the VIN# is very, very hard to make out. Make sure that you remove all of the paint and take a picture of the stamp area with a good camera. Crop the picture and blow it up as big as possible. I had to do this with my Pace Car #272 block. I could just make out partial impressions of enough of the charactors to verify the vin. [/ QUOTE ] So are you saying that CE blocks have the VIN stamped on them?? ![]()
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Not specific to any engine applications in particular but depending on what GM had on hand the over the counter and/or warranty replacement engines were sometimes supplied in CE or suffixed applications..
Consider the genuine Suffixed but non Vin stamped Corvette blocks/engines that are floating around as an example.. On CE's w/ Vin stamps, not that they often/ever did it but wasn't the General's policy instructions to the dealer installing a warranty unit to stamp the Vin into the replacement unit?. ![]() ~ Pete |
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