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Old 06-23-2009, 07:26 PM
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Steve knows his stuff.

Pontiac really tried to breakout the Firebird from the Camaro early on. The 67-68 models shared many of the same parts between them, the 69 Camaro and Firebird only shared door panels and trunk lids, and the 70-up Firebird and Camaro were very different from each other. One of the problems in restoring a Firebird is that the Camaro restoration vendors decided about 15 years ago that they could market to Firebird owners by simply changing their description(s) to say "Fits Camaro/Firebird". Over the years, as more and more Firebirds were restored, owners simply went with what was cheap and convenient, what was in the catalog, and Firebird restorations became inundated with reproduction Camaro parts. And now, all these years later, some of those cars are getting re-restored, and due to aging and weathering, it's tough to know what's original and what's an older reproduction Camaro part.

As Steve stated, you can make nearly any 70-up part fit your 70 Trans Am, but for a good resto, the afficiandos will know which parts are from incorrect years, which parts are resto parts, and which parts are Camaro parts. I learn more everyday about the subtle differences between the Camaro and the Firebird. The 1969's are sort of a nightmare to restore, because they a one-year only body and interior.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:00 PM
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The Firebird people have been begging, screaming, pleading for years for someone to reproduce the 70-73 Firebird steel tail panel (which includes the rear valance as one big piece).



The ridiculous response you get from the aftermarket is this:

"Well, we make the one for the 74 to 81 cars and it doesn't sell too well, so were not going to do the 70-73 panel."

That is the stupidest reasoning I have ever heard. The 70-73 cars are the ones that people are restoring. They are the cars that are worth the most and are restored far more frequently than the later model cars but these guys just dont get it.

It's like saying you wont make 69 Camaro quarters because the 1992 quarters you make dont sell so well.

Here's the one they make for the 74 and up:


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Old 06-24-2009, 03:27 AM
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I like this line:

"guaranteed to be maybe 1 of 10 known that are this original"

Talk abount an uncertain statement!!
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:34 AM
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After Steve's rant, 27 bidders are retracting their bids!

Thanks for that info
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Oh yeah, that was my ulterior motive: to get everyone else to drop out so I can get it cheap!
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:10 AM
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Steve, I am amazed at the amount of work and attention to detail you have put in your car. You have also been honest about the cost.

I can not see this car being restored at all, it just does not make any sense. No glass, no floors, no sheet metal??
Someone is bidding on the scoop, drive train and tags.
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