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Old 05-25-2009, 09:31 PM
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Not a rebody and actually a great example of how much work can be involved while keeping the core and being of an original car intact w/ all tags and Vins locations remaining unaltered in any way..

And each their own but aside from agreeing that this car is not a rebody, please count me as having the complete opposite views to southernfried's ideas noted above..


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Pete, if I was offering to give you 2 piles of parts at no charge, on the condition that you would use the parts to build one car, which would you rather have (an let's say that the contents of the piles were full documented and posted on this website so everyone knew what the finished car was made up of)?

Pile "A": a firewall/cowl with tags & numbers intact from a '69 ZL1.

Pile "B": the tags, entire engine w/ all accessories, entire transmission w/ all accessories, drive shaft and entire rearend from a '69 ZL1.

I would rather have pile "B". My rational is that I would have a nice rebodied Camaro with all the "important" ZL1 parts.
If I chose pile "A" I would have a Camaro with a ZL1 firewall.

It's just my opinion and I know I am in the minority (I would guess I could be a minority of one).

To me once the original drivetrain is gone a car might as well be a clone. JMHO, which is not shared by the market apparently.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:06 PM
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Jim...

To be clear, the two choices of your original posting are completely different than your A/B scenarios above as your first posting included a "real" car and in the second posting, both are rebody cars..

(...I would rather have a rebodied LS6 Chevelle or Hemi Cuda with all original drivetrain than a "real" car with non original drivetrain. ...)

Of your first posting, I'd love a real LS6 or Hemi Cuda w/ non original drivetrain but have absolutely no wanting to have rebody of any kind around whether the original drivetrain was in it or not..

If I had the hypothetical but genuine real car, I'd hope to complete it as close to casting and date correct as possible but it would not include 'added' stampings regardless of how correct they may appear and without concern for any judging groups that allow extra points for such a thing..

Of your second scenario, I'd choose neither one as again I have no desire to own much less build either one being I consider both A & B as Rebody cars..

Whether others agree or not, I consider a genuine and unaltered car as one that's never had a Tag or Vin location disturbed and a 'Firewalled' car is a Rebody...regardless of original 'Vinned' parts being present or not..
If there's a need at resto or in the life of the car where the re/re of a Tag or intrusion of a Vin location is necessary, full disclosure of what's transpired should always be provided to any serious purchaser...without asking!.

PS - In the A/B choices, if there's another choice added where I can end up w/ the ZL1 parts but your condition of building a car is removed, I'm your man!.


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Old 05-25-2009, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Is this a rebody?

Whats the difference if it is a Dynacorn body or sheetmetal from the WalMart? Its a kit car IMO. May not be a rebody but.......?? Whats worth more, a 1000 pt. resto with repop sheetmetal or a 1000 pt. resto with all original sheetmetal?
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:51 AM
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If not considered a rebody, than I think an Extreme Make Over catagory might fit the bill.....Sometimes having parts of the original car in the finished project just makes your day........but that's just me...... undertaking what ever the call...
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: Is this a rebody?

If you move the Vin # & trim tag to another car it's a rebody. Pretty dam simple. Duh!
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:36 AM
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If you move the Vin # & trim tag to another car it's a rebody. Pretty dam simple. Duh!

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Yep but some others seem to have a totally opposite view...like those who leave the tags completely and absolutely alone (which of course obviously necessitates moving the body instead)?.


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Old 05-26-2009, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Is this a rebody?

If it was me, I would rebody a car in that condition. Whats more original, a car like the example with every piece of metal, except the firewall, replaced with Chinese metal OR a taking the tags and putting them on a GM ORIGINAL body?

Id rather have the body that GM welded together than one that Hillbilly Jim welded back together with a million miles of welding rod.
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