Is this a rebody?

[BARN FIND]

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Interested to know how much Ricky charges per hour ???

I just had some "minor" misc patch panel work done on my 69 Camaro, and know how fast hour upon hour becomes weeks upon weeks. (Was not weeks in my case, just a figure of speech)

I cant begin to guess, how many hours this project will have into ALL the metal work. I would think the "bottom line" will be staggering.

Curious how well/easy the one piece floor and one piece truck goes.......????? as we repaired misc small areas and used up some time with all the cutting and prep.

Regards,

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There is a guy in Morristown, TN that regularly does floor, trunk and inner/outer rockers on 67-69 Camaros for $1500-2000. Turn around is about two weeks. I can personally tell you that 2nd Gen Camaros take longer and cost more!

[TDW]

Nope, not a rebody. The part with the factory VIN is still there, so it is a "body restoration".

[Charley Lillard]

Not a rebody in my mind.

[firstgenaddict]

It may be crazy work... but it's not a rebody! IMHO

[PeteLeathersac]

Not a rebody and actually a great example of how much work can be involved while keeping the core and being of an original car intact w/ all tags and Vins locations remaining unaltered in any way..

And each their own but aside from agreeing that this car is not a rebody, please count me as having the complete opposite views to southernfried's ideas noted above..


~ Pete

[BARRY]

HI it takes a/// real expert welder// to do all that work.. can you picture that car in a collision at 30 miles a hour

[njsteve]

That is not a rebody. What he is doing would be considered the correct way to restore a very rusty car within the parameters of the law.

[67BelAir427]

Not a rebody, and I share Pete's "opposite view".

Show me photographs of the work performed during a restoration like this, and let me decide whether I wish to buy the car or not.

Have you ever heard of someone showing photographs of the rebody process to a prospective purchaser? "This is a photo of me removing the VIN tag from the original car and attaching it to another car".

[southernfriedcj]

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Not a rebody and actually a great example of how much work can be involved while keeping the core and being of an original car intact w/ all tags and Vins locations remaining unaltered in any way..

And each their own but aside from agreeing that this car is not a rebody, please count me as having the complete opposite views to southernfried's ideas noted above..


~ Pete

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Pete, if I was offering to give you 2 piles of parts at no charge, on the condition that you would use the parts to build one car, which would you rather have (an let's say that the contents of the piles were full documented and posted on this website so everyone knew what the finished car was made up of)?

Pile "A": a firewall/cowl with tags & numbers intact from a '69 ZL1.

Pile "B": the tags, entire engine w/ all accessories, entire transmission w/ all accessories, drive shaft and entire rearend from a '69 ZL1.

I would rather have pile "B". My rational is that I would have a nice rebodied Camaro with all the "important" ZL1 parts.
If I chose pile "A" I would have a Camaro with a ZL1 firewall.

It's just my opinion and I know I am in the minority (I would guess I could be a minority of one).

To me once the original drivetrain is gone a car might as well be a clone. JMHO, which is not shared by the market apparently.

[PeteLeathersac]

Jim...

To be clear, the two choices of your original posting are completely different than your A/B scenarios above as your first posting included a "real" car and in the second posting, both are rebody cars..

(...I would rather have a rebodied LS6 Chevelle or Hemi Cuda with all original drivetrain than a "real" car with non original drivetrain. ...)

Of your first posting, I'd love a real LS6 or Hemi Cuda w/ non original drivetrain but have absolutely no wanting to have rebody of any kind around whether the original drivetrain was in it or not..

If I had the hypothetical but genuine real car, I'd hope to complete it as close to casting and date correct as possible but it would not include 'added' stampings regardless of how correct they may appear and without concern for any judging groups that allow extra points for such a thing..

Of your second scenario, I'd choose neither one as again I have no desire to own much less build either one being I consider both A & B as Rebody cars..

Whether others agree or not, I consider a genuine and unaltered car as one that's never had a Tag or Vin location disturbed and a 'Firewalled' car is a Rebody...regardless of original 'Vinned' parts being present or not..
If there's a need at resto or in the life of the car where the re/re of a Tag or intrusion of a Vin location is necessary, full disclosure of what's transpired should always be provided to any serious purchaser...without asking!.

PS - In the A/B choices, if there's another choice added where I can end up w/ the ZL1 parts but your condition of building a car is removed, I'm your man!.


~ Pete