Olds W30

[RM Schimel]

This particular Matador red W-30 went through the spring Mecum auction last year and stalled at 150K. It was also was up on E-bay and stalled. At both prior sale attempts the car had NO DOCUMENTATION whatsoever. So the current level of documentation with a partial build sheet and a re-printed window sticker is a bit suspect. This is not a Troy Thornton restoration …it was restored by Matt Woods from East Coast Classic Auto & Restoration another Oldsmobile exclusive restoration shop. The car looked as if it came out of the grave. One would not be surprised if a donor car were used in the restoration process. This car has a lot of questions surrounding it, which was dramatically reflected in the selling price. RM



http://mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail...D=SC0508-67445

[68l30]

Must be the week for Olds...A friend of mine just scored a 70 W-30 ragtop.. Complete minus trans (4 speed) with a W-27 rear...Orange on Black and fairly loaded from what he told me...Red innner fenders and all....The car has some mud in it and needs to be restored....$1500 bux!!! I told him to load it up and run!!!

Steve

[csx289]

RM just stated the same things I heard about the docs for the B-J car. I had not seen the "before" pics prior to Paul posting the link- holy cow Docs or not, even if the car is real what do you really have? But that is a whole 'nother debate.

The 442 HT on eBay is not a W30. It is a W25 (OAI hood) car. Note the side stripes.

Re. B-J WPB vs. Russo and the Az auctions, yes, I would expect prices to be higher in Az. Everybody is there, while not many people I know go to the other B-J sales as a combined result of low number of "good" cars and the travel issue. Much easier to go to Az for a week and see hundreds of good cars than to go to WPB for a week and see two. Also, Dana Mecum's upcoming sale has an incredible level of great cars and I know many are holding their pennies until then !!

Stealth, as you pointed out, W-Machines are not like Pontiacs. Much more like LS6 cars, etc. But if you can get real docs and have a real car they are great, rare, fast, unique cars. The problem is finding them!

So all we can say is that B-J sold a car some aren't sure of for about the same as Russo sold the blue car that we were all sure of and some clones are selling cheap. Don't think it tells us much about the true market for good cars. Paul, would you agree? And I'd love to see pics of the $1500 orange 4 speed car, sounds awesome!

Colin

[TimG]

I'm a big Olds 442 fan and the prices are all over the board for these cars. I'll be interested to see what the orange non 1970 W-30 on ebay goes for. No AC and Hurst automatic. I like them that way.

[Stefano]

The Blue 442 had also been at Mecum prior. It was presented with very conflicting information and no factory documents proving its W-Machine Status. It had some additional affidavits when it was sold at Russo.

The former local "Black" 442 4 speed, with W30 parts was also not an original Black car. Repro trim tags are cheap!

The Red/White 442 was at Mecum this past Spring with no Factory Documentation displayed.

Also, eBay is not what it once was. We just sold a Hemi Cuda for more than 2Xs the high bid on eBay. eBay is just a way to get exposure, at this point.