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Old 01-21-2009, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 1970 w30 4spd questions

thanks for all the great help, its going to a good cause. the guy that has it needs help. he has a guy coming over to take pictures today.

he will check the inner fenders and the axle tube number (wow, awesome clues,thanks!). the car has manual disk brakes by the way, another good sign.
If I can back him out of this car for 15k (he paid 18k yrs ago) he is on a path of recovery. I know he looked for the build card in all the wrong places, so that will be checked today.

last time i saw the car, the interior looked cool and nice, with the 4spd and the red body and those red inner fenders. it will be a restoration project for someone. just hope to confirm its likely a w30 vs a regular cutlass, so he can get it out of the barn and pay off some of his loans.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: 1970 w30 4spd questions

Remember - those things are indications that it *can* be a W-30 4-speed. Anyone can add red fenderliners to a Lansing car with manual brakes. Because if you think it is what it is, your next step, after restoration, is convincing someone else to pay the kind of money for a car that has no documentation.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: 1970 w30 4spd questions

here are some pictures of the car. has the right rear end.
it told him let it go for the first 15k that comes his way. thanks for the help. he is searching on the fender tip for the w30 marking and the build card.

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLanding...=bbwnwd&x=0
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:30 AM
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Stripes are incorrectly painted and if my memory serves me correct the intake is a '71-72 intake. Don't take my word as gospel.
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 1970 w30 4spd questions

I would detail that thing as clean as it can possibly get and just drive the sh!t out of it.
Car is a very nice driver, without docs, I just don't see where a resto is justifiable when there is a lot of enjoyment to be had with that car like it is.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: 1970 w30 4spd questions

Couple things to add or ask;

What is the VIN up to the "M"? This will tell you if it's even a 442.
If it has the original tranny in the car, what's up with that shifter?
Has half a rally pac?
Rusty's correct on the intake years.
Those chrome valve covers would only be correct for Rusty's H/O.

The red fender liners look too nice to have been with that car from birth (opinion).

Still worth restoring if it's a 442, but probably not for his asking price without strong proof.

My $0.02
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: 1970 w30 4spd questions

vin is 344870m377218 for what its worth.
its colder in wisconsin than in chicago, when his barn warms up more he can look more. atleast he needs to find that sticker i found under the hood that said w30 on it.
maybe its not a real w30.
i plan to call original owner in indy to see if he has anything he forgot, even pictures of it drag racing , if that was true even in the first place. car came with 2 engines and all kinds of parts, guy was a drag racer.

with the original engine mia who knows where or what is what on the intake. i totally understand, not enough to go on.
probably will get sold for the some of the parts.
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:07 PM
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The hood was code W-25, which was standard on the W-30 and optional on base 4-4-2s.
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:56 PM
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what i meant to say was 'sum of the parts'
type too fast or too late, 7yrs of college go out the door.
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:54 PM
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Where the hood hinge bolts to the fender, there will be a hole punched in it, (just before the hinge) is there a body nut there or just a hole.
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