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Old 01-23-2009, 05:47 PM
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Hylton, the car could easily Top Flight with that engine at an NCRS event providing the other areas of the car were Top Flight worthy. I believe that the point loss would be 37 out of 6,500 points, very small deduction. Even if the car had no stamping but the casting number and casting date were correct the point deduction would be minimal. Bloomington would "box" the car, or not allow it reveice a Gold under any conditions.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:28 PM
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"...Here's a question for you judges - how would judge a car with the correct factory stamped/casted engine codes (cast date, assem date, eng. suffix) BUT the motor was declared by the owner as not the original one? The added tangent is that there is no VIN stamped on the block..."

Hylton, the car could easily Top Flight with that engine at an NCRS event providing the other areas of the car were Top Flight worthy. I believe that the point loss would be 37 out of 6,500 points, very small deduction. Even if the car had no stamping but the casting number and casting date were correct the point deduction would be minimal. Bloomington would "box" the car, or not allow it reveice a Gold under any conditions.

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To add to this hypothetical situation, if the owner did not declare the engine as non-original and the car wasn't previously known/recorded in any databases, would there be consideration of this being a factory mistake/missed Vin stamping?.
And if so would there still be point deductions at an NCRS event and Bloomington boxing the car?.

Also what point deductions differences are there for perfect in all respects 'restoration engines'...admitted and non-admitted as such w/ again the car not being previously known/recorded in any databases?.


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Old 01-23-2009, 07:35 PM
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NCRS will accept a car without its original engine, for example if an engine out of another '67 Corvette is installed, it could pass. One person brought a '66 Corvette with an engine out of a car about 100 cars later. No problem, Top Flight honors were awarded. The owner even wrote an article for The Restorer magazine and the title was "Top Flight without the original engine". I think NCRS believes that a car doesn't have to have an original engine to achieve top honors. A CE engine with a correct casting date and casting number would work great. This car would be at about 98% before any other judging began. It could still Top Flight with a 94% if is't a decent car.
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