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Old 01-19-2009, 08:51 AM
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Boycott future BJ auctions and start your own version at Your Super Car Reunions you have yearly!

You could control the future values of the cars by keeping a better group of people surrounding them.

Involve a co-op with the said groups in the know who keep the records on these cars there by eliminating the current situation presently happening to our Hobby.

No more Camaros at BJ.

Bring them all to sYc reunions.

You could then control the future auctions etc and eliminate all doubt.

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Old 01-19-2009, 12:46 PM
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Schoneye The federal statue on VIN's applies to a stolen vehicle. If you are the "owner of said vehicle, or agent thereof" the exemption for removing/replacing is clearly stated. The law yields if you are "repairing" your own vehicle. So when a body shop is putting a front clip , cowl or body shell on a damaged vehicle it is a repair , not a criminal act. The law needs to be amended to state that if fraud is involved it is a criminal act, stolen car or not. Defining the exact nature of where fraud exists, however, is a real challenge . Sure, we all know it when we see it, but putting it in a legal code is the hurdle. Write your elected officials. Last I looked, however, they won't even jail a guy that stole 50 Billion from investors.
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:26 PM
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Once you guys decide on an acceptable description here is where to take it. Fax them, write them and call them.

Here is the contact info for US House of Representatives

http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/index.html

Here is the US Senate contact info, sorted by state.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...e&Sort=ASC

You can google search for your local state reps.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:58 PM
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Getting away from the ZL1 fiasco, did anyone see that 69 hugger Orange/White top 69 SS Chevelle go across the block on Sunday.? Owner claiming original paint and top.? That was a $15k repaint if ever there was one. Even the COMMENTATORS were questioning it's autheticity. BJ has definitely lost the educated seller and buyer at this point, Jackson is PT Barnum, the flim flam man. An arena for the too wealthy and too uneducated to show off and get thier mugs on TV. Can't believe I wasted hours watching that crap. My .02
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:16 PM
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And you will waste more hours next year. And the next year and the next year....
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:30 PM
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And you will waste more hours next year. And the next year and the next year....

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You bet It's like being hooked on watching "Judge Judy".....I can't stop....great entertainment
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I'm just a nube to all this, I thought (at lease in the Peoples Republic of Illinois) that when a vin was changed on a car for repair etc. that it had to be witnessed and certified by a officer of the Secretary of States office. I'm not sure but then it would seem that there would be certification papers which would have to move with the title of the car?????

I feel real bad for the guy that bought the green ZL-1. He looked absolutely thrilled. Now I have to assume that he is really upset at this point, I cant see that the news has not gotten to him by now.


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Old 01-19-2009, 06:24 PM
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Schoneye The federal statue on VIN's applies to a stolen vehicle. If you are the "owner of said vehicle, or agent thereof" the exemption for removing/replacing is clearly stated. The law yields if you are "repairing" your own vehicle. So when a body shop is putting a front clip , cowl or body shell on a damaged vehicle it is a repair , not a criminal act. The law needs to be amended to state that if fraud is involved it is a criminal act, stolen car or not. Defining the exact nature of where fraud exists, however, is a real challenge . Sure, we all know it when we see it, but putting it in a legal code is the hurdle. Write your elected officials. Last I looked, however, they won't even jail a guy that stole 50 Billion from investors.

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I understand, but think too, as Carl stated about Il. a DOT officer is required in Ia. also to witness a VIN changeout, and document it. I'm not sure it may not require a new VIN nbr. I'll see if I can dig up officer Dan my DOT guy and get his opinion.
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