Barrett Jackson COPO Camaro

[Schonyenko2]

I find it interesting that the silver deuce brought 100k. If a rebody is 50% less, then does that mean deuces are worth 200k? I'm not sure if deuce owners should be outraged, or happy.

I believe the P/L car should have gone through 1st. It had the solid pedigree. I too though it should have brought more.

Open question: How do you sell a car like the silver deuce for example,in a highly public forum, that is openly called a rebody. Where pictures exist, that show hidden vins have been welded/changed in the car, and not draw the attention of any state, or federal DOT enforcement people?
If changing vins to the extent that has happened here is a federal offense, where are the feds? And if you register, or title this car in your state, have you also not committed fraud?
If Howie's standin on the street corner sellin weed and the cop say's "what are you sellin", and Howie says "fine grade tobaco mixed with alfalfa, even though it's weed, well, that's one thing. But if he says, I'm sellin weed, I bet he gets arrested. What's the difference?

[iluv69s]

So the story goes like this... George Washington had an axe and he broke the handle...so he pulled out the little metal wedge from the top of the handle and removed the remaining piece of the handle...in the mean time he sent the axe head out to be sharpened but the guy sharpening the axe head ruined it by grinding it too much...so good old George, not thinking nothing about the future of his axe, went and found a used axe head that was already sharpened and bought a new handle and went and used that old " original wedge" to put it all back together again....so is it still the original axe???? I live in a historic town in Penna. very near where George once roamed...if I find this exact axe...what is it worth??

[NovaMob03]

Ken, It must have something to do with the venue & hype. It kills me that a rebodied Deuce can pull 100+ comm when my 1 of 50, COPO #9738 Nova, with original Gibb Chev documents, can't hit that mark. I think the buyers leave their brains at home

[lwkitt427]

RIGHT OUT THE BLOCKS B&L TRYED TO EXPALIN WHAT HAPPENED WITHT THE GREEN ZL/1 HIS EXPLAINTION WAS WHEN THE CAR WAS SO LOW THAT REGGIE SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO BID BUD IN ORDER TO DO SO HAD TO GO THE FLOOR TO BID. AND IN FACT REGGIE HAD OWNED THE CAR AT ONE TIME. TO ME IT SEEMS THE OTHER WAY AROUND LIKE THEY ASKED REGGIE TO GO DOWN AND HELP WITH THE BIDDING IN ORDER TO GET THE PRICE UP. LET NOT FORGET B&J MAKES MONEY ON EVERY CAR SOLD. SO IT IS BETTER FOR THEM IF THE CAR SELLS FOR MORE. I HAVE NO PORBLEM WITH A REBODIE AS LONG AS EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS UP. SO OF US WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD A REAL ZL/1 AND THAT MIGHT BE THE CLOSEST WE EVER GET.

[elonblock]

I have only attended one auction with a friend who happened to be very knowledgeable with how auctions work. It was fun to go there with him, but I don't think I would attempt participating without some prior instruction.

In regards to this car, it appears to me that this car is well known for having "issues". And this isn't the first car with issues that has been discussed here, or known to be suspect.

For my clarity and learning,are there any solutions/options (aside from the buyer doing their due diligence) to prevent this type of thing happening on a regular basis?

Elon

[StealthBird]

Hey guys, I just uploaded the auction of that Fathom Green ZL-1 for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiLf56NlDPc

Mike

[Dayton]

Mike,

i don't think the link works

[Unreal]

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RIGHT OUT THE BLOCKS B&L TRYED TO EXPALIN WHAT HAPPENED WITHT THE GREEN ZL/1 HIS EXPLAINTION WAS WHEN THE CAR WAS SO LOW THAT REGGIE SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO BID BUD IN ORDER TO DO SO HAD TO GO THE FLOOR TO BID. AND IN FACT REGGIE HAD OWNED THE CAR AT ONE TIME.

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I saw that, and Mike Joy left out the part about Reggie withdrawing his final bid when it appeared he might actually be high bidder....pretty important piece of info, don't you think?

I did not see the original auction, so I'm assuming the accounting of it on this thread is true. If not true, I withdraw my criticism.

[Seattle Sam]

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So the story goes like this... George Washington had an axe and he broke the handle...so he pulled out the little metal wedge from the top of the handle and removed the remaining piece of the handle...in the mean time he sent the axe head out to be sharpened but the guy sharpening the axe head ruined it by grinding it too much...so good old George, not thinking nothing about the future of his axe, went and found a used axe head that was already sharpened and bought a new handle and went and used that old " original wedge" to put it all back together again....so is it still the original axe???? I live in a historic town in Penna. very near where George once roamed...if I find this exact axe...what is it worth??

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Well at least in this case you still have an axe that George Washington owned. What if George tied a little tag on his axe with his name on it and you bought it? And then later on the handle rotted and the head rusted and pitted real bad, so you bought a new axe and moved that name tag over - now THAT would be a rebody!

[GRB]

Reggie's reputation is taking a big hit. He makes a lot of money for just having owned certain cars but now he's playing fast and loose with his reputation.

Example: There is an article in the Feb.'08 Chevy Rumble called 'History in the Making'. The writer recounts Walden and Harrell's early problems with the ZL1 aluminum blocks. The story the writer tells is far from the one I heard straight from one of he horse's mouth. Do the facts matter anymore?

After watching Reggie yesterday I thought back to what this writer claims happened to Lamar Walden's first aluminum block. According to him the regional service mgr. came by to haul the "warranty block" away but then decided he didn't want to get his trunk dirty. So instead of returning the block to GM (I would think the engineers would want to inspect the damage, especially on a new engine design) he decided to just take a big hammer and break away the portion of the block with the serial number on it. Pardon me, but I smell bullshit.

Maybe somebody can link the article if some of you want to read it. I'm not accusing anybody of anything but this story just seems to work out a little to well for all parties involved! And Reggie actually helping rebuild the engine???

I hope big money and greed don't totally ruin our hobby.