FOURTY !!!!! Mile (40 mile) Survivor 1980 Z-28

[bad1racing]

That is not a castle nut as we know it.That is a no cotter pin nut that has the dimples on it so that it wont back off after tightened.
kendall

[CC Rider]

They are some kind of flare nut. Saw them many times when replacing idler arms, center links, and tie rod ends when I used to turn wrenches back then.

No cotter pin needed.

[SS427]

Upon closer examination of the nut I see what you are talking about. Initially it looked like a castle nut but now I see the dimples. Wish they used this type in earlier years.

[CamarosRus]

The question remains.........how collectable, how valuble????

What are/were some other collector car, speculation failures??????or surprises??????

[gb70]

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The question remains.........how collectable, how valuble????

What are/were some other collector car, speculation failures??????or surprises??????

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One failure comes to mind, how about the 1978 Corvette 25th year anniversary Pace Car. I knew guys that broke the bank in '78 to buy the first ones (way over sticker) and kept them in the garage and put little mileage on them. They still don't bring the money all hoped for.

As for the value of this vehicle now and the future. I would guess between 35-45k but it all depends who wants it and how bad. Hard to compare since I have not heard of any like it exactly.

[Late BrakeU2]

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The question remains.........how collectable, how valuble????

What are/were some other collector car, speculation failures??????or surprises??????

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The 10th anni T/A's were about the only spec play future collector cars from that era-low production,last year of the big block. I have seen a few of those with less miles and in better condition go for around 50k in better times.

Not trying to pick pepper out of fly sheet but better condition means less patina and still has all the plant shipping cardboard and interior wrap. If I had to guess it hasn't been in a climate controlled enviroment it's whole life. Still it's a nicely optioned car,in the right color. Would be surprised to see it get much north of 35-40k and it prolly won't hit reserve at that. GM built 45 thousand of these and only 1100 or so W72 10th T/A's-neither were heralded for giving neck strains in the 1/4 mile.

As far as spec busts IMO the 90-91 ZR1's qualify. I remember people getting 50k for a place in line + the cost of the car to be the first kid on the block with one,so that was a 100k and now they are half that for one like this 80Z nearly twenty years later.

[92646]

I think Charley should put this in his collection and park it next to his 1970 Z/28 to show both ends of the 2nd generation Camaro model run.
Mark Sheppard

[Charley Lillard]

I think the car is great and have no reason to doubt that the miles are real. What takes some of the specialness away for me is the fact that it was probably bought and put away because someone figured it was going to be a collector car. It is the ones like my 70 that got put away for other reasons that do it for me. There have been a few cars like this one with no miles that show up at the auctions lately.

[bad1racing]

Rick,I personally like the old stuff better as you remove the cotter pin and take the nut off.The one in the picture when you take it off you are supposed to put a new one back on (not reuse the old one).I've seen many a mechanic put the old one back on,but it just doesn't seem to have the locking ability as when it was new.

As for the car it looks nice.

Kendall