what year is this Torino?

[mockingbird812]

'70 Torino Convertible 429 SCJ Drag Pack auction ended on 21 Nov. with the threat of "if it doesn't sell here I'll take it to BJ or R&S - I haven't decided yet! Looks like a nice resto on a very rare car. Not a Ford guy, I see air cleaner has "Cobra Jet" decal. Is it a Super Cobra Jet with the Drag Pack option (i.e. external oil cooler, more aggressive gears, tuffer bottom end, etc.) ?

[JoeG]

Top of the line on this model was the Cobra Jet 429 Ram-Air(Shaker-Hood) with Drag pack( with all the engine goodies ,391/430 traction lock, etc.)
A buddy of mine ran one and it could run with the best---I think the SCJ --was a special Ford concept with a Daytona type nose--I think a couple were made????...Don't quote me on this though..

[JoeG]

I looked thru a couple of books and it does seem Ford named the '70 Torino with the 429 CJ,drag pack and shaker hood etc the 429 SCJ.....
I really thought there were a few Super CJ with that Daytona type nose....If I come across a photo I'll put it up..........

[hubleyman]

OK you knowledgable Ford guys, you prompted me to ask a question.....

I recently ran across a 70 Torino for sale parked near the edge of a field (yeah, I sort of live in a country setting).

It had one of those "best offer, no info" kind of signs in the window (don't you just hate that?) which immediately makes me not want to call......

Anyways, from my quick glance the car appeared to be nothing too exciting: faded gold-beige sort of paint with no stripes (looked liked possibly original paint), automatic, ratty interior, 351 emblems on the fenders. What peaked my curiosity was the fact it had a shaker hood (if that is Ford-correct terminology, I'm used to my Cuda's) but didn't have the scoop sticking out of it, just some sort of mesh screen over the opening....

So my question is - should I go check this car out again and get more details? Could this be a significant worthwhile project for somebody (not me, I'm trying to finish several of my current cars) if I were to pick it up for a song? Is there anything specific I should look for if any of you guys are interested?

Thoughts?? Charlie

[mockingbird812]

Get the Vin and contact Kevin Marti . He'll give you all the info you could want on this car.

[PhilS]

The vin will confirm the engine. The 351 with 4v is M I think, the non Cobrajet (Thunderjet) 429 is N and the non ram air CJ is C and the ram air is J. I'm pretty sure that ram air was available on engines other than CJs but don't know if that changed the engine codes. The SuperCJ is much different on 429s than 428s. The SCJ got a horsepower bump of 5hp but was actually more. Solid lifters, different carb etc.

[442w30]

To clarify:

429 CJ + Drag Pack = SCJ

Despite what some sources may suggest, a J-code doesn't make a SCJ, and the Drag Pack was available on non-ram air CJs (The C-code).

Ram air was available from the 351-2 on up, and they all were Shakers. No ram air without a Shaker.

The slope nose car is the stillborn King Cobra, which was built to beat the Daytona and Superbird. It never made production. I also don't know what's between the fenderwells, but it could be a "plain" CJ for all I know.

The Drag Pack added some reinforced/heavy duty parts to the CJ, plus 3.91 or 4.30 gears. You can't tell a SCJ from the VIN, but you can use deductive reasoning and figure it out from the axle code on the data plate. However, some 4.30 cars have been found on lesser engines, but those were anomalies and it's still good to use it as a rule of thumb.

[1970Bluel78]

Cooler yet would be a 701/2 Falcon with a 429 SCJ !!!

[mockingbird812]

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Cooler yet would be a 701/2 Falcon with a 429 SCJ !!!

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Concur - very bad boy. Plain jane post car with rubber floor mat and a big stout engine. I was tracking a white one of these for awhile. Talk about sleeper!!!

[PeteLeathersac]

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Cooler yet would be a 701/2 Falcon with a 429 SCJ !!!

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Now you're talkin!!!

I'm not much of a Ford fan nor did I ever have any love for the 70/71 Torinos...but I always liked the Falcon Post cars and foolishly let one slip through my hands about 1981..


~ Pete