GM Facts and Fiction

[Chevy454]

Welp, Congress said "no bailout without a plan" and then dismissed for Thanksgiving...so, how many of those Congressmen do you reckon are flying home on commercial airlines?

[firstgenaddict]

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Most of the blame for all of this lies at the feet of the Government and the only was to solve this is term limits. The only incentive these guys have is to get re-elected, their greed is just as bad as everyone elses just a lot more dangerous.


Im not going to get political this is not the place but I think you know what I mean.

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Farmer, Miner, Mechanic, Machinist, Lawyer...
Which of the above trades/professions and all fruits from it could be eliminated with the least detriment to society?

Term limits are good in that they deal with the problem of quid pro quo in that politicians feel beholden to groups who give them money, however, we also need to get the Lawyers out of both houses of Congress...

Why should a politician who is a lawyer be able to write more laws? Forbidden Fruit anyone?

Lawyers already control one entire branch of Government.. the Judiciary... why should Lawyers write laws, practice the laws they write and judge the laws they practice?
If anyone knows of another profession which has more influence on the lives and viability of everyone in the country, please hold your silence no more...

"——when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is doomed... "
-Atlas Shrugged 1957 Ayn Rand

[John Brown]

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"——when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is doomed... "
-Atlas Shrugged 1957 Ayn Rand

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For any that haven't read <u>ATLAS SHRUGGED</u>, there is no need to read it now..... It is about to come true, like it or not.

[ANDY M]

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"——when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is doomed... "
-Atlas Shrugged 1957 Ayn Rand

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For any that haven't read <u>ATLAS SHRUGGED</u>, there is no need to read it now..... It is about to come true, like it or not.

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As the resident English Major here, I feel I shoud jump in and offer this link, which is worth a look:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...Atlas+Shrugged
Think of it as a sort of online Cliffs Notes. At 1000 pages, this book is not an easy read for the average gearhead, with all due respect.
Since I started this mess, what has happened to steer this thread to Ayn Rand? Aren't we getting a little esoteric here?
The anger of one individual can be the motivation for many, like the first pebble that starts a landslide. I would suggest calling your Congressman with your suggestions and opinions. It just might make you feel like you tried to do something. JMHO

[firstgenaddict]

I ran a regional distribution center in Columbus OH, we were non-union, however it seemed as though it was a union shop...
"That's not my job",
"I am not delivering to that customer",
"That's not my normal route so I'm not running it",
"I am not helping to unload the trucks" are just a few of many moronic statements my employees would spout off soon after I took over...
can you guess what happened to EVERYONE of the idiots who engaged their mouths before their BRAINS... WALKING PAPERS... after 3 dismissals in 5 days employee moral increased and the remaining did all the work with fewer employees the dist center was profitable with-in 2 months and everyone got bonuses and a raise!

I would have never contemplated telling my employer what I was or was not going to do, my belief has always been that my employer is paying me to do whatever they tell me they want done, doesn't matter if I'm an executive and they want me sweeping the floor.
As far as I am concerned Subordination is grounds for dismissal... you have to nip that kinda crap in the bud or else the rest of the employees get "ideas".

[427TJ]

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I would have never contemplated telling my employer what I was or was not going to do, my belief has always been that my employer is paying me to do whatever they tell me they want done, doesn't matter if I'm an executive and they want me sweeping the floor.

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Well said! That has been my work matra since my paper route days 35 years ago and it still is.

[427TJ]

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At 1000 pages, this book is not an easy read for the average gearhead, with all due respect.

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That's the funniest thing I've read all week!