Reproduction window sticker fail!

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I do my inspections all across the country all year, any time someone hands me a POP or window sticker any more I just look at it and say, yep thats nice. The fakes have become so good that I just seldom trust these documents anymore. With regards to buildsheets, what used to take seconds to see a fake can now take a couple of hours. They are still making minor mistakes on them but they are getting damn good at them even though it is fairly easy to spot fake weathering and aging. Unfortunately all it does is those of us with real documents mean less and less and people are beginning to not trust anything anymore. </div></div>

That is a <span style="font-weight: bold">real</span> shame for the guys who have <span style="font-weight: bold">real</span> documents. So what <span style="font-weight: bold">CAN</span> you do to tell if a car is what it is represented to be??

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-size: 17pt">What is left that can be believed????</span></span></span>

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[Bill Pritchard]

I have not personally had any experience with this company, but it is an alternative to Triple A....

http://www.winvoices.com/

[njsteve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I do my inspections all across the country all year, any time someone hands me a POP or window sticker any more I just look at it and say, yep thats nice. The fakes have become so good that I just seldom trust these documents anymore. With regards to buildsheets, what used to take seconds to see a fake can now take a couple of hours. They are still making minor mistakes on them but they are getting damn good at them even though it is fairly easy to spot fake weathering and aging. Unfortunately all it does is those of us with real documents mean less and less and people are beginning to not trust anything anymore. </div></div>

That is a <span style="font-weight: bold">real</span> shame for the guys who have <span style="font-weight: bold">real</span> documents. So what <span style="font-weight: bold">CAN</span> you do to tell if a car is what it is represented to be??

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-size: 17pt">What is left that can be believed????</span></span></span>

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] </div></div>

You can lock the original owner in the trunk and bring him to shows with you. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

[bergy]

Maybe I never mentioned this before - so just in case...
1. Factory/Dealer Documents
2. Professional Inspection/Certification
3. OWNERSHIP HISTORY - with contact numbers.

Our registry is set up to indicate all 3 of these areas of documentation. It's just too darn bad that the privacy laws have made it so hard to obtain ownership history, but you can do it - keep digging!!

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[SeattleCarGuy]

Just to close the loop on this thread that I started.

I am completely 100% dissatisfied with Triple A Enterprises and I will never use them again or recommend them. As I stated previously, they promised a window sticker for my '69 L78 Nova in 4-6 weeks and then they took almost 3 months to send me a window sticker and they left the most important option, the L78, off of it! I pointed that out and they promised to correct it, then they asked me for a sample window sticker to model it off of. I sent them my broadcast copy sheet showing the L78 option and other codes and my NCRS dealer form. They then said about two months ago that they would be on vacation and would get to it the following week. They haven't done anything. I sent follow up emails which they haven't responded to. I have asked for my $50 back and no response.

On the other hand, I contacted www.winvoices.com based on Bill Pritchard's recommendation above. These guys were outstanding!!! Their guy, Paul, called me and we spoke about how to handle the U26 option on my broadcast copy and he explained all of that and even contacted the selling dealer and spoke for 20 minutes to them. They are still around, Les Stanford Chevrolet, though no old records retained. However, he got the name of their number 1 salesman from 1969 and even got the correct old address since they had moved. He was very thorough, professional and the docs look great. Highly recommend them!

[Alss]

Looks like nice stuff..I am going to inquire further [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] thanks! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[Bill Pritchard]

Just today I mailed off my check to Paul at 'winvoices' for the documents for my 'Purchase Pending' 69 Chevelle Post Sedan. Paul has been an absolute pleasure to deal with during the process, which has been a learning experience for both of us, since there are so few Post Sedan models original window stickers to look at in order to make sure everything is correct. Paul did the same thing for me, calling the original selling dealership in El Paso TX (which is also still in business) to make sure all info is correct. That is the kind of attention to detail that I am happy to pay for [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

[CC Rider]

Guess I will contact Paul when I am ready to replace my Triple A Reproductions window sticker.

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just today I mailed off my check to Paul at 'winvoices' for the documents for my 'Purchase Pending' 69 Chevelle Post Sedan. Paul has been an absolute pleasure to deal with during the process, which has been a learning experience for both of us, since there are so few Post Sedan models original window stickers to look at in order to make sure everything is correct. Paul did the same thing for me, calling the original selling dealership in El Paso TX (which is also still in business) to make sure all info is correct. That is the kind of attention to detail that I am happy to pay for [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img] </div></div>

Well done Bill [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

[Bill Pritchard]

I received the repro window sticker (for my 'purchase pending' 69 Chevelle SS396 Post Sedan) from Paul at 'winvoices.com' today, and it is excellent. As I previously mentioned, he was truly a pleasure to deal with and I now have good reason to recommend him to anyone looking for such a product.