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Default Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro

VERY interesting notation that they used Cliff Gromer as driver for the best 11.48 run. Cliff went on to become editor of Musclecars magazine out of Hackensack. I met him at an E-town show in the early '80s when I had my '62 there.
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Dog, super article. What magazine is that from?
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Default Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro

I can't figure out what car Oldham is talking about in this article. The pictures look like the one he bought new and there are other 1969 articles on it but no mention of ZL1 power in the other articles?
Also no mention of ZL1 power in the recent Oldham book that has an article on what I think is the same car?
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Default Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro

Not the first time I have seen this. In some other mags I have it seems that pictures in the articles got mixed in. Like the article on this car titled "Outrageous". In the article one of the pictures is of a 68 dash.
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Joel told me he built one '69 ZL-1 Camaro. You're right about the pics. They seem to get recycled in a few articles.
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Default Re: Joe Oldham's '69 SS-427 Camaro

They did this all the time. Oldham's Camaro was used in several articles not always about his specific car. Cars Magazine used 1968 photos of Joel Rosen's '68 SS 427 Camaro in articles as late as 1982 when they published a "garage find" story about a different '68 SS 427 Camaro in a special edition magazine. In the '82 article they even implied that the photos were of the "garage find" car, when in fact they clearly were original '68 photos.

What kills me is that Oldham kept his '69 in a frickin' open car port at his apartment building! It got stolen? Well NO SH*T!!! I think Oldham even admits that by parking it in the car port it was only a matter of time until it got stolen. Someone who was there (maybe Oldham in one of his stories) said that B-M cars were practicaly number one on the stolen muscle car list in those days. They'd get stolen and parted-out. No wonder real B-M cars are so rare today.
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