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Tommy_Mathison 10-10-2006 06:05 AM

subframe bushing tape...
 
What was the exact application of this tape? Does it just simply tape the bushing to the subframe to hold it in place for installation? Were all four bushings taped? what about the radiator support bushings?

I am a bit confused as to the exact application, can anyone help me out? Thanks!

Tommy M

L30M20 10-11-2006 05:45 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Hello, The tape is used to hold the 4 body bushings, from side to side of bushing across the top part thru the hole where the bolt goes thru, in other words, the tape ran parallel with the frame on the middle bushing. On the rear bushing it was parallel with the trans crossmember. The radiator bushings had a retainer on them thru the bolt to hold them on. Its in the Assy. Manual. The tape is similar to 1-1/2 masking tape, flat black in color. I think Paragon or Quanta has it for the Vette guys. Hope this helps, Craig

mrrec 10-11-2006 05:22 PM

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Tape positioning and color varies with model, assy plant, time and star alignment (it was just slapped on to hold the mounts - think about it). The tape on an untouched 9k mile LT1 Vette is natural masking tape color 1 1/2" wide as posted above. Photo attached (I hope).
Dave

Tommy_Mathison 10-11-2006 06:13 PM

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The pic is not working, and I was all excited to see it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif I have seen remnants of the tape before on numerous Camaros but what is left is never enough to form a conclusion as to what exactly was taped to what and how. I am going to replicate the tape on the bushings, however, I don't want to look like an idiot when it's not used correctly.

Tommy M

SS427 10-11-2006 06:46 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Chad's recently located Z-28 still showed the tape on one of the mounts. Maybe we can get him to post a picture of it since it is already on the lift and in the air....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
Rick

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 10-11-2006 07:32 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Tom Williams - does your 5k mile HO 6cyl Nova have this tape?

MosportGreen66 10-11-2006 10:39 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Mid year corvettes had this tape... I'll dig up some restoration photos...

Rick H 10-12-2006 02:37 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
My 1967 Camaro RS still has the tape under the bushings. Not a good picture but you can see it under the rear bushing on the passenger side.

Rick H.

http://home.rochester.rr.com/drhoff/...old/gold21.jpg

Tommy_Mathison 10-12-2006 04:01 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Rick, that is the same place all of the tape is that I have seen. Now did the tape extend down from the top on the bushing/subframe onto the sides of the subframe (left and right of the subframe in your pic)? If so, was only the top bushing held into place then? I apreciate the help guys.

Tommy M

Rick H 10-12-2006 04:07 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
I don't believe it goes down on to the sides of the subframe. I can look when I get home Friday night and post what I see.

Rick H.

Tommy_Mathison 10-12-2006 09:17 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
If it didn't hold the upper bushing to the subframe then what does it tape, or what was its purpose?

Tommy M.

Rick H 10-16-2006 01:26 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
I looked at the tape on my car and it looks like it was used to hold the upper bushing to the floor. If it was used to hold the bushing to the subframe then there must be a lot of tape missing.
Interesting to note is that I do not see any evidence of tape on the drivers side. My floors, subframe and bushings are original to the car so.

Another neat piece on my car is that there are two small rubber pieces taped to the center e-brake cable to keep it from rubbing on the floor. Plus all the original spring tags are still on the car.

Rick H.

Tommy_Mathison 10-16-2006 01:40 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
If the tape held the bushing to the floor, that means it would have to have been double sided tape. This is way confusing. I'm going to keep digging.....

Tommy M

NCGuy68 10-17-2006 04:57 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
I've parted out quite a few Camaros over the years, both Van Nuys and Norwood. Never seen any Sub-Frame bushing tape to speak of. I have seen evidence of tape on early 'Vettes' from the St. Louis plant

Please post clear photos of any Camaro S-Frame Bushing Tape that might be OEM. Thanks for your help.

KENNY_PASCOE 10-17-2006 05:01 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
IF SOMEONE HAS PICS OF MY OLD 18K MILE 69 Z/28 THAT CAR CLEARLY HAD TAPE UNDER THE BUSHINGS. CALLING DARREN, I KNOW YOU HAVE PICS.... KP https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Tommy_Mathison 10-17-2006 06:44 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Here it is. That car belongs in a museum, by the way...
https://www.yenko.net/photos/data/533/Z80.jpg

All the pics show the tape in the same position, but I don't understand its function https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
Tommy M.

Denis 10-17-2006 07:28 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Here ya go boys. Just took this picture few minutes ago. Off my 67 "li'l ol' lady" Camaro. This car never even been washed.

http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/...ushingTape.jpg

Tommy_Mathison 10-17-2006 04:53 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Awesome pic Dennis. Same place... what wat is it taping??? Could it have been taping a hole in the floor shut??

Tommy M.

NCGuy68 10-18-2006 05:19 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 


[ QUOTE ]
Here ya go boys. Just took this picture few minutes ago. Off my 67 "li'l ol' lady" Camaro. This car never even been washed.

http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/...ushingTape.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

The Vette guys say the tape held the bushing to the frame during Body Drop on the assembly line.

So why does the tape appear to be 'stuck' to the floorpan on F-Bodies?

Tommy_Mathison 10-18-2006 06:39 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Exactly what I am wondering.... taping the bushing to the frame makes perfect sense, but this does not appear to be the situation....

Tommy Mathison

Denis 10-18-2006 08:29 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Double-sided tape?

JohnZ 10-20-2006 07:02 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
The tape in the photos appears to have been applied to the underbody, not to secure the cushions to the subframe; I'd guess Fisher Body applied it at the rear mount bolt hole locations to keep water out of the body during their 3-minute on-line water test in the Trim Shop, which had spray nozzles under the body as well as on the outside. They also had large foam clamp-on masks that covered the heater and blower openings, steering column openings, and floor shift openings, as all of those parts were installed later by Chevrolet.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Tommy_Mathison 10-21-2006 03:21 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
That is awesome. Exactly the answer I was looking for, mainly because it makes sense. Thanks John, you truly are amazing. Thanks to everyone else also.

Denis 10-21-2006 05:28 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
John sure has a knack for shutting down discussions of this sort.

427TJ 10-21-2006 08:16 AM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Here's the driver's side on my '67 BB Camaro, complete with grimy patina.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Tape.jpg

Charley Lillard 10-26-2006 06:15 PM

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Here is a pic of my Pace car and it seems to confirm what John stated. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/attachments/230863-IMG_0957.JPG

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 10-26-2006 06:20 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
Did all of the plants do the water test? Is the tape on both sides? I don't think I've ever seen this tape on the Novas built at Willow Run, MI https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Mr70 10-26-2006 07:02 PM

Re: subframe bushing tape...
 
What the "F" M.....that's what I wanted to ask too. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
I haven't seen this on any Van Nuys built A-bodies.
Was it a Norwood,Ohio only test?


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