69 70 nova guys
 

you ever see a shifter and ball like this?
no muncie on it just a T and the ball looks marbleized.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_0185.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_0184.jpg

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Maybe a Saginaw shifter. Never seen a ball like that....

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I have seen that 'T' marking before...Saginaw 4 spd. I think we have a console version with the same mark. Low horsepower V8 applications got the Saginaw wide ratio tranny. Limited audience for that item..

-wilma

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

I had a 72 SS 350 El Camino with a Saginaw and that stick.Do not recall which ball it came with.
Swapped it out for a M-20 and a Hurst.

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Tom, how do you tell the difference between a console shifter and a non console?

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Donnie...The console shifter kicks the handle over to the right so it comes up thru the center of the console. The non-console shifter is more straight up and comes thru the floor closer to your leg.

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

can anyone help with where the clutch return spring goes? a pic would be helpful

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom, how do you tell the difference between a console shifter and a non console? </div></div>

The biggest difference is the physical size of the shift handle....the bench seat unit is longer and taller. Console shifter will have a more upright aspect to the handle to make it work with the console setup.

I believe the spring attaches to a tab that is mounted on the driver's side exhaust head pipe to manifold connection...that's how it is on the BB cars.

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Donnie -- I've attached two pics from my 71 Nova Assembly Instruction and Chassis Service Manual's ... may be the same as yours. TAZ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-49179-001.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-49180-002.jpg

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AND I found another picture on line ... TAX https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...tch_spring.jpg

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Thanks Craig! thats what I needed just got it hooked up.
I had that first pic, but it had to little info.

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Great Donnie -- get er' runnin' ... Craig

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psef9addd1.jpg

This shifter is original to a 68 Nova I own. It looks a lot like yours. Original Saginaw 4 speed car with console. There is no &quot;T&quot; on this one.


Tommy

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Small block return spring setup is like the pic on page 1. BB is different setup, the way Tom Williams explained.

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Tom -- do you have a pic of the BB setup? Does anyone else? I'd like to add that to my archive ... THANKS! TAZ

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As Tom indicates, this looks like the BBC setup to me ... TAZ

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...tch_spring.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...h_sprg_bbc.jpg

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

Here are some pictures of 1967-68 Camaro/1968-72 Nova console shift handle, and 1968-72 Nova bench seat handle...

Hope this helps... Crash

Re: 69 70 nova guys
 

I think those Nova Muncie sticks were 68 to 71 Nova as the 1972 Nova SS350 used the Saginaw 4 speed. The 1972 Nova SS 350 was down on HP and used the Saginaw 4 sp trans and 10 bolt rear

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The last 12 bolt usage was on the 71 Manual shift Nova SS.