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YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-23-2014 03:42 PM

Priming the oil system before startup
 
Do they make something that attaches to a drill that can spin the distributor shaft if it's already in the engine? Something where you could just remove the rotor and attach a device that would spin the shaft? I'm getting close to firing up the Deuce, and really don't feel like pulling the distributor to use the priming device.

Donnie 08-23-2014 03:45 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
http://www.summitracing.com/search/depar.../make/chevrolet

ds1 08-23-2014 05:27 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Primer shafts only run the oil pump. You would have to turn the entire engine, because the cam gear is attached. I have primed engines with the coil disconnected and run the starter until oil pressure shows on the gauge

VintageMusclecar 08-23-2014 05:39 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
No way to do it with the distributor installed other than to remove the spark plugs and crank it over.

If you decide to buy/build a priming tool, it <span style="text-decoration: underline">must</span> have the part of the body that goes inside the block by the distributor gear--it's the round aluminum part with the groove in the middle on the right of this picture (This is the Crane priming tool). This is required as it completes the oil galley path at the back of the block. Without it (such as the Moroso unit in the 2nd pic), oil will not reach the top of the engine.

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...10-1_JE_xl.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/globa.../mor-62200.jpg

britgrnz 08-23-2014 05:44 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Pressurize a tank of oil and pump it into an oil gallery while turning crankshaft, like an accusump.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-23-2014 08:44 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Primer shafts only run the oil pump. You would have to turn the entire engine, because the cam gear is attached. I have primed engines with the coil disconnected and run the starter until oil pressure shows on the gauge </div></div>

You are right - didn't think about cam gear connected to the camshaft connected to the.... I guess I'm pulling the distributor afterall, what a pita.

Kurt S 08-24-2014 03:59 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
You've run it before right? I'd just fire it up. There's not much difference between sitting for a week or sitting for a year - all the oil has drained down to the pan. After a couple of revolutions, the engine should see oil moving most everywhere.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-24-2014 08:51 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
I have run it before, but it hasn't run in about 3 years. I did pour some oil down the pushrods and filled the filter. I'm using this Brad Penn oil as well. I also pulled the plugs and sprayed some WD40 into the cylinders.

I think I'll just crank it, then fire it like you suggest - I stink at getting the distributor back in....

Kurt S 08-25-2014 04:18 AM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Lube on the valvetrain would be my biggest concern. Pulling the valve covers and squirting some oil on the rockers and lifters couldn't hurt. But I wouldn't sweat it.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Kurt S 08-25-2014 05:01 AM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Should say:
Lube on the valvetrain would be the only real concern. Pulling the valve covers and squirting some oil on the rockers and lifters couldn't hurt. But I wouldn't sweat it.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Many cars sit for years like this before they are fired off again.

SS427 08-25-2014 01:59 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
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I took an old parts distributor and removed all the guts so I had nothing but a housing and shaft. Take the gear off as well. Insert into the block and attach a 1/2&quot; drill. You have to mill the top of the shaft but that was easy and it works great!

earntaz 08-28-2014 02:23 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
If engine was mechanically sound when you shut it down -- remove PWR wire from distributor, crank engine for about 10 seconds, reconnect PWR to distributor ... should be all you need to do.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-28-2014 04:22 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Yea, I buttoned everything up, charged the battery, made sure the radiator was full, put fresh 110 in it - and hit the key. It took a little bit to build oil pressure, but it fired right off! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

I have a pesky oil leak at the oil sending unit. The original one leaked, so I put an NOS one on - it leaks too. Are you guys teflon taping these things to death or what? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] Spent days cleaning, and a short jaunt around the block later - oil drips... frustrating.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...ps84b462cd.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...psa6c49678.jpg

earntaz 08-28-2014 04:44 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Marlin -- I've seen this before ... may not be leaking at the threads. Seeping may occur at the crimp toward the top of sending unit. This may be hard to see, but clean the sending unit, start engine, bring up to a high idle and observe the top of sending unit where wire is attached. Oil starts oozing out ... The TAZ

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 08-28-2014 05:54 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Ok, will check it out tonight. There is a little puddle on the rear flange of the block from this thing, [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img] I should just put some Dixco gauges in it eh Jason? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

SuperNovaSS 08-28-2014 05:59 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Dixcos are pretty nice. The NOS 3 gauge set is sold to a member though. I may have a used set here for you :-).


Jason

ds1 08-28-2014 06:33 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Oil pressure gauges have two different ends. One type is a wedge. One type is kind of round. I had an issue like you are describing and changed the block fitting.

firstgenaddict 09-05-2014 09:35 PM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
There is a long discussion on the oil pressure fittings on the CRG and the Team Camaro for 69 Z28's if this is similar you may want to check it out.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 09-07-2014 01:30 AM

Re: Priming the oil system before startup
 
Thanks, I'm just hoping it's not the intake gasket.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]


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