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69Tom 12-10-2009 09:42 PM

Re: LETS HAVE SOME OPINIONS OF WIW ON THIS CAR
 
If I had the money to be in the market to buy cars without worrying about it too much (there's definitely people out there so it's not far fetched), if all the numbers matched and the car were a real Sport Fury 440-6, I'd have no problem paying $55-60K for it in restored condition. Would I be crazy for doing so? Perhaps, but a) a '70 Sport Fury with bucket seats, a console, and Rallye Wheels was my first car, b) because I spent a long time researching these cars, I know how rare the Rapid Transit version is, and c) I think it's a cool car and the numerous people who commented on it EVERY time I drove it agreed with me.

It might not be your general "star" collector car like an L72 Chevy or a other supercar, but it's still a cool ride in it's own regard.

$45K unrestored is still crazy, however.

69hurstSC 12-11-2009 12:36 AM

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What other full-size musclecar was there in 1970? In the truest sense of the term, there weren't any.


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Wrong.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/184...11294large.jpg

442w30 12-11-2009 03:41 AM

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True, that!

old5.0 12-11-2009 04:16 AM

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But it's not rare for the exact same reason, which is the point that I was unsuccessful in making.

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Sorry, I disagree. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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You're talking about a big Plymouth that doesn't carry much weight (pun not intended) in the hobby no matter what engine it has. By 1970, there simply was no demand for a big car with multiple carbs . . . hell, even Chevy stopped promoting the Impala SS (with 427) after 1969. What other full-size musclecar was there in 1970? In the truest sense of the term, there weren't any.

On the other hand, a SS396 Chevelle ragtop with an L78 is very rare, but that's because a solid lifter engine like that wasn't popular to the general ragtop market. . . . not a good motor to tow a boat, requires more frequent tuning, etc.

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We can speculate all day as to why more people didn't order more of a particular combination, but it seems kind of futile to me. In my mind, regardless of their collectability today, neither a Six Barrel Fury or an L78 convertible made any sense strictly from a performance standpoint, but that's my opinion.

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But the value of a L78 ragtop is high because it's a rare car that has the demand to support it in the marketplace. The GT V-code, in comparison, suffers from being a C-body (even Mopar guys make fun of 'em), and the demand is not there to justify a high price - that's why I'm confused by your analogy because "rare doesn't equal desirable" can't be a blanket statement in my mind.

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I agree, there is no demand for it. What are we debating again? I think you're reading too much into this. I didn't make a blanket statement, I said it doesn't automatically equal desirable. A puke green slant six Belvedere four door sedan with red interior might be a one of one, but who cares? Again, their current collectibility bears no relation to why there weren't more built in the first place. Of course most people would assign a higher value to an L78 'vert than they would a Six Barrel Fury. I know I would, but that doesn't change the fact that in 1969, when there was zero collectability assigned to these cars, no self-respecting horsepower geek would ever have chosen a convertible over a hardtop. Or a Fury over a Road Runner or Cuda.

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Well, here's an analogy of mine: Would I prefer a '65 Impala with the L78 or a '66 Chevelle with the L78? I'd take the former!

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And I'd agree with you. But I wouldn't trade a truckload of junk Furys for a solid Six Barrel Road Runner. Again this all just my opinion.

MultiMopars 12-22-2009 01:03 AM

Re: LETS HAVE SOME OPINIONS OF WIW ON THIS CAR
 
Check this out. It sounds like the guy that wants $45K for one of his black cars has purchased this COMPLETE original owner car for 10% of the asking price of the original subject car in this post.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post5681319

gts340 12-23-2009 08:44 AM

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I call b.s. on the 10% car. I think it's a joke being played on Dan, the seller of the 45k car by a moparter.
I think the car he has for sale is cool. Hopefully someone comes along and restores it. If it's truly for sale, the market will determine the price.
I wish the hobby was more about the passion for the cars than the value, it would be a lot more fun.

MultiMopars 12-23-2009 09:43 AM

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I call b.s. on the 10% car. I think it's a joke being played on Dan, the seller of the 45k car by a moparter.
I think the car he has for sale is cool. Hopefully someone comes along and restores it. If it's truly for sale, the market will determine the price.
I wish the hobby was more about the passion for the cars than the value, it would be a lot more fun.

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According to the latest linked Moparts thread I show, Dan is the one that purchased the $4500. car.

Fast67VelleN2O 12-23-2009 08:29 PM

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That car was a hoax for sure.

gts340 12-23-2009 08:35 PM

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I call b.s. on the 10% car. I think it's a joke being played on Dan, the seller of the 45k car by a moparter.
I think the car he has for sale is cool. Hopefully someone comes along and restores it. If it's truly for sale, the market will determine the price.
I wish the hobby was more about the passion for the cars than the value, it would be a lot more fun.

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According to the latest linked Moparts thread I show, Dan is the one that purchased the $4500. car.

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So he says but hasn't been seen since on that thread.

old5.0 12-23-2009 10:08 PM

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I think you're right. That whole deal was way too convenient. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif


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