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He is a real person and you have to put a price on stuff. I imagine if you wanted a few items and pick up the phone things would change a bit. Everyone wants a deal, if you start at the rock bottom than happy buyers would be few and far between.
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Please fill out your profile.... like 99.999% of us I don’t have a dog in this fight.... but you seem to have a hard on for him. If you are truly from Cincinnati I think I know who you are. if you have positive information please feel free to share it but being negative gets all of us nowhere. JMO
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I saw the car in person last week. It is a 100% legit survivor L89 car. The car looks great in the pictures, but present a lot better in person.
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SURVIVOR 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396-375 hp L-89 Aluminum Head car, 4-Sp 4.10 26,110 Original miles Survivor. Fathom Green Original Paint. Heartbeat City is pleased to offer this extremely rare survivor unrestored Fathom Green 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396-375 HP L-89 Aluminum head car with 26,110 original miles. This Camaro has the original JJ coded 396-375 HP Aluminum head engine, Original Muncie M-21 4 Speed transmission, and Original 4.10 BV rear axle assembly. All of which are the very same drive train that General Motors installed in the car at the Norwood Ohio factory assembly plant in January of 1969. Factory Options: 1969 Camaro all original SS 396-375 hp, L-89 Aluminum heads, 4 speed Muncie Close ratio transmission, 4.10 BV coded Posi traction rear end, Standard black interior, fast ratio steering, front & rear spoiler package, heavy duty 4 core Harrison radiator, console with gauges, dash mounted 6000/7000 tachometer, center dash mounted clock, and Rally wheels. Engine: The original engine pad stamping T1221JJ and original VIN number 19N575023 is still intact on the side of the engine block. The very last pictures in this auction show close up views of the engine VIN and Transmission VIN. This is not a re-stamped or bogus engine in any way shape or form. Please see the paragraph below for our letter of authenticity. Transmission: The M-21 Close Ratio transmission is the original Muncie that General Motors installed in the car at the factory in 1969. The production date on the side of the transmission is P9T28. This indicates the transmission was assembled on December 28th, 1969. Rear Axle: The original 4.10 BV coded rear axle is still in the car and has never been removed to my knowledge. The casting date on the housing is A-3-9. This means the housing was casted on January 3rd 1969. The assembly date is BV0108G1 E. The assembly date stamping means the rear axle was assembled on January 8th 1969 and the BV indicates a 4.10 Posiwas installed. The G stands for Gear and Axle Plant. The “E” indicates Eaton for the positraction unit. Please see pictures for a close up view of the axle production date. Body & Sheet metal: All body panels are genuine GM original parts. The floor pan, trunk pan, and rocker panels are all original GM and have not been replaced or patched. No sheet metal or body panels have ever been removed or replaced on this car. Interior: The Standard black interior in this car is the original front and rear standard black seat covers, Original front & rear door panels, and all trim are original. The seat foams and seat backs are original and nice. Please see all pictures of the interior. The steering wheel in crack free and still retains all of the original pebble grain on the edge of the wheel. The carpet was replaced a few years back. Suspension: This Camaro still has all of the original front and rear suspension parts from the sub-frame bushings to the leaf springs. Nothing has been altered or changed in any way except the shock absorbers have been changed to none spiral shocks at one point in the car's life. Factory Original Components with date codes: I have taken the time to note each and every component on this ultra rare Camaro. Below is the entire list of each and every component and their respective date codes. I think it would be very difficult to locate such a Camaro in this original condition. Dated Original Components Engine block casting #3955272 Engine block pad build date T1221JJ RH Cylinder head casting number #3919842 Dated November 1968 LH Cylinder head casting number #3919842 Dated November 1968 RH Exhaust manifold casting #3916178 Dated L-21-8 LH Exhaust manifold casting #3909879 Dated L-20-8 Intake manifold casting #3933163 Didn't remove to get the date code Carburetor list #R-4346 Dated 8A3 8= 1968 A=December 3=third week Carburetor GM #3959164GE (restored, re-colored, rebuilt, and re-installed) Alternator #1100837 8L23 Rebuilt and restored by John Pirkle Starter 1108418 Date code A-2-9 Distributor #1111499 Date code 8L8 Ignition coil original #293 embossed Radiator dated H original Harrison 4 core curve neck Horn relay #1115890 Voltage regulator 1119515 Date 8K Oil dipstick: original to the car with yellow tip and flat handle Master cylinder casting #5468309 Date code 340th day Brake booster 9204 Date code 356th day Wiper motor original Manual steering gear box (manual) Dated 356th day Transmission main case casting #3925660 Transmission tail shaft housing #584 Transmission build or production date P9T28 P=Muncie, 9=year 1969, T=December, 28= Day of month 28th Transmission VIN number 19N575023 Bell housing casting #3899621 Flywheel casting #3789733 Dated K-18-9 Rear axle casting date A-3-9 Rear axle build date BV0108G1 BV=4.10 Positraction 0108= January 8th G= Gear and Axle plant 1= 1st shift Smog pump build date 305-8 Smog pump diverter valve #29199 Smog pump pulley Original GM #3932458DA Smog system hose #3940937 new have original used hose Smog pump hose #3909940 new have original used hose Smog check valves 5361992 x 2 restored and replated Smog tubes are mint original used with no damage Smog pump hose clamps are all original and dated 3Q/68 Fuel pump Replaced Crankshaft pulley original GM deep groove #3955291AB Water pump pulley original GM deep groove #3927824BV Alternator pulley #1970831 Water pump casting #3931065 Date K-15-8 Valve cover RH mint Re chromed original Valve cover LH mint Re chromed original Thermostat casting #3877660 Fan blade #3947772 Dated December 1968 Fan clutch #3946049 original to the car Radiator cap RC-15 restored original 69 Air cleaner assembly: original with silk screen still intact Front disc brakes: all original with thick two piece rotors calipers (never apart) Rear leaf springs: Original 5 leaf springs Dated original windshield dated XV clear glass (never removed from car) RH side glass dated CX clear glass LH side glass dated XV clear glass RH quarter window dated XV clear glass LH quarter window dated CX clear glass Rear windshield dated XA clear glass Steering wheel: standard black with no cracks or damage Still has original pebble grain rim AM Radio: NOS Dash speaker has been re coned and installed Front bucket seats nice original with no damage. Rear seats nice original with no damage Front door panels: mint originals Rear side panels: mint originals Headliner: mint original no damage Sill plates: original riveted sill plates Driver side outside mirror: nice original dated 11-8 Seat belts: all dated originals LH retractor dated 51-A-68 RH retractor dated 49-A-68 Inside driver side buckles dated 51-A-68 & 49-A-68 Inside passenger side buckles dated 49-A-68 & 49-A-68 LH shoulder belt dated 49-A-68 RH shoulder belt dated 49-A-68 Rear seat belt RH dated 49-A-68 Rear seat belt center dated 51-A-68 Rear seat belt LH dated 49-A-68 Headrest RH mint Headrest LH mint Tachometer: 6000/7000 mint original and working perfectly In dash clock: mint original and working Console with gauges: mint original and all gauges work properly Hurst shifter original rebuilt, restored, and installed Hurst shifter handle original re-chromed with #5325 Hurst original shifter rods & levers: original true BB shifter rods Original T-3 headlamps: mint and still working in car, original to car Original dated jack 8K, base, tire iron, rubber straps, U69 base & jaw Note: At this time there is no spare wheel or tire for the car. History: I found this Camaro in Novi Michigan back in 1994. One of my friends told me about the car. I waited all week to go view the car. Needless to say, I was stunned to find such a rare car in this condition. It is not often that you find a car this rare and this original. I checked every casting number, casting date, and every code. The only components I couldn't solve were the wheels. None of the wheels on the car are dated or coded for this car. I suspect the original wheels were the XT stamped steel base wheel. I never thought to ask any of the previous owners about the wheels that would have come on the car from the factory. In 1994 I wrote to the State of Michigan department of motor vehicles. At that time, they would furnish you with all the previous owners, titles, and registrations both front and back, and ownership history. The owner history is intact and will be provided to the purchaser. I still have the receipt for all the history, and certifications from the State of Michigan. Due to the Privacy Act, we can no longer obtain such information. I have all of it for this car. Letter of Authenticity: This 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Vehicle number 124379N575023 is an original 1969 body manufactured by General Motors Corporation in 1969. This is an authentic 1969 Chevrolet SS 396-375 HP L-89 Aluminum head car. I have not in any way altered any the VIN numbers, The Trim Plate (Paint Tag) and I do not have any knowledge whatsoever of any re-stamped parts or the re-stamping of any VIN numbers on the engine or transmission. I state that the engine and transmission is the original engine and transmission General Motors installed in this 1969 Chevrolet Camaro in the year 1969. I further agree that no alterations have been made to this Camaro’s body with regards to changing any identification numbers or manufacturer’s codes. Signed by seller________________________ Date_________________ Should you have any further questions about this Camaro, please do not hesitate to contact me via phone 586-226-8811 or my personal email [email protected] Price: $139,995.00 |
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It looks like a great legit car at a fair price. I have been looking at the listing for the past week and a half. If my wife were out of town, I'd be very tempted to pull the trigger and deal with the fallout.
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Very nice original Camaro, I wish I had the funds to buy it.
Can someone explain the trunk pictures to me. It appears to me that there is trunk splatter paint on the truck lid hinge support bracket(s) but it then just stops and then there is no splatter paint in the rest of the trunk area. Is this something the GM factory would do? Last edited by Z282NV; 12-16-2020 at 06:22 PM. |
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That would work, until she took the car in the divorce... I've bought a few project cars under 5k with the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" program but $140,000..
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That is an anomaly to only have so little spatter in the trunk. Having worked an assembly line, there is only a given amount of time the vehicle is in your "station" to get everything you are assigned done. Either the spray gun ran out of spatter, and there wasn't time to get it spraying after a drum change or the installer ran out of time.
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