Another New Toy Challenger Hellcat

[427.060]

Thank you again Steve. I saw that you had ordered a 2023 Plum Crazy car but didn't see what happened with it. There are a lot of things I need to learn about the car to be able to enjoy it like I want to. I don't intend to beat on it.
I am actually the first owner of the car. It first showed up at a dealer in May 2023 and went to a couple other Dodge dealers before ending up at the dealer I bought it from in February. One of the Dodge dealers I went to printed off a list of all the 2023 Challenger Jailbreaks that other Dodge dealers within a 500 mile radius of them had for sale with their prices and the cars mileage. There were none with lower miles listed.
One thing that I have read is that a lot of these cars have battery issues. The battery will die in a week or so if the car is not started. They battery in mine has been replaced.
You mentioned the Faraday pouches and box. I already have a box and a couple pouches for my other cars. I will need to buy a couple more pouches for this set of keys.

[markinnaples]

That purple/red must be wild looking. Any pics?

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by 427.060

Thank you again Steve. I saw that you had ordered a 2023 Plum Crazy car but didn't see what happened with it. There are a lot of things I need to learn about the car to be able to enjoy it like I want to. I don't intend to beat on it.
I am actually the first owner of the car. It first showed up at a dealer in May 2023 and went to a couple other Dodge dealers before ending up at the dealer I bought it from in February. One of the Dodge dealers I went to printed off a list of all the 2023 Challenger Jailbreaks that other Dodge dealers within a 500 mile radius of them had for sale with their prices and the cars mileage. There were none with lower miles listed.
One thing that I have read is that a lot of these cars have battery issues. The battery will die in a week or so if the car is not started. They battery in mine has been replaced.
You mentioned the Faraday pouches and box. I already have a box and a couple pouches for my other cars. I will need to buy a couple more pouches for this set of keys.

Yes, absolutely get a battery tender and leave it on. Mine sits in the garage with the tender on it 24/7. There are so many electronic gadgets that run and uplink to the Dodge mother ship somewhere, that the battery will be dead in two weekends if you just park it and leave it without a battery tender.

I ended up dropping that ordered Purple/Red car because I was only going to get it at MSRP $91,255 (which was a great deal in 2023 when all the other dealers were charging $25K to $50K markups for one of their allocated Redeyes) and Dodge said they were only going to make 29 narrowbody Redeyes in 2023, which would have made it the rarest and lightest Redeye produced...but ended up making 175 and they mistakenly listed the jailbreak version as the 807hp version when it was actually 797: the difference in the two engines was the rev limiter on the engine controller. The 807 version used in the Super Stock and the 807hp Jailbreak, used the one from the Super Stock but it was speed-limited based on the drag racing tires speed rating of 187 mph. When I saw the first broadcast sheet from a narrowbody 23 Jailbreak Redeye and it showed the standard Redeye engine controller and not the Super Stock one, that proved they had messed up. I reached out to the CEO of Dodge and showed him my findings. Within a couple hours the website had been changed to lower the HP rating to 797. So I bailed on the order as it would have been the exact same car as what I had, only a different color and $15K more expensive.

I also got my 2022 Redeye at $10,320 UNDER the $87,490 MSRP!! which was a deal that could never be beat at the time.

P.S. the "797hp" Redeye in 2022 and 2023 had its own "high performance" engine controller that had no speed limitation and was capable of 202 mph. So technically, I already had the highest top speed version they made at the time.
(Don't even get me started on the 1025hp 2023 Demon with it's speed limited 149 mph engine controller based on the M/T drag tire speed ratings. That pissed off a ton of purchasers after Dodge had advertised it as The Fastest Muscle Car ever at 204 mph")

This was the car as delivered to the guy that took over my order. (once the dual fuel pump was replaced a month after he took delivery)

[njsteve]

And another thing: Delete those factory tires! The assembly line Pirellis are terrible to the point of being dangerous and have been the cause of most Hellcat wrecks. They are like petrified hockey pucks. Go get a set of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. They are a night and day difference. You can stomp on the gas and the car will track dead straight ahead versus the Pirellis that will stick on one side and then the other, unpredictably and send you into the nearest fixed concrete obstacle. We installed a set on ours and the 0 to 60 went from 5.5 seconds spinning to 3.6 seconds sticking. It's a frightening car when it gets going. I don't think I have hit the go pedal fully for more than three seconds straight at a time, as the car accelerates forward so violently. It's like the scariest rollercoaster I've ever been on.

This is the perfect time to buy them too, all the Christmas sales at the various tire warehouses are on now.

Added note: the Pirellis we took off the Redeye went on my son's 2011 R/T 6-speed and they are amazing on that car. I guess it comes down to the hellcat's 800 horsepower being way too much for the tire compound they have on the car. They work just fine on a 376hp R/T hemi.

[427.060]

Originally Posted by njsteve

And another thing: Delete those factory tires! The assembly line Pirellis are terrible to the point of being dangerous and have been the cause of most Hellcat wrecks. They are like petrified hockey pucks. Go get a set of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. They are a night and day difference. You can stomp on the gas and the car will track dead straight ahead versus the Pirellis that will stick on one side and then the other, unpredictably and send you into the nearest fixed concrete obstacle. We installed a set on ours and the 0 to 60 went from 5.5 seconds spinning to 3.6 seconds sticking. It's a frightening car when it gets going. I don't think I have hit the go pedal fully for more than three seconds straight at a time, as the car accelerates forward so violently. It's like the scariest rollercoaster I've ever been on.

This is the perfect time to buy them too, all the Christmas sales at the various tire warehouses are on now.

Added note: the Pirellis we took off the Redeye went on my son's 2011 R/T 6-speed and they are amazing on that car. I guess it comes down to the hellcat's 800 horsepower being way too much for the tire compound they have on the car. They work just fine on a 376hp R/T hemi.

Should I stay with the same size tires?

[njsteve]

You can go up a size from the 275/40-20's to a 285/35-20 on the rears but you only pick up a 1/2" more width and lose 3/4" in height. To go any larger like a 305/35-20 you need much wider rims than the 9.5" wide stock narrow-body ones.

[markinnaples]

Thanks for the pics Steve. It looks interesting and the purple almost looks blue in the pics.

[useless tony]

Originally Posted by njsteve

One more thing. ABSOLUTELY get the dealer to perform the RFHM lockout. This is a TSB that is covered under warranty to prevent a thief from programming a new set of keys in a matter of seconds and driving off in the car. This is how the majority of them are stolen.


Also, And immediately buy the Faraday pouches for stopping the keyfobs from sending the signal out to the car 24/7 - another thing the thieves can intercept and make a new fob from. And furthermore...place the keyfobs and pouches somewhere inside your house (a metal safe is best) and not hanging on a hook by the front door. (Another theft method is they walk around your house/garage with a modified receiver to pick up the keyfob signal from the typical homeowner who hangs his keyfobs by the back door.

In the Toronto Canada area, if the "human waste" want your car or cars bad enough, they'll change their theft methods slightly to include a home invasion. Driveway bollards? If the homeowner can raise them, the homeowner WILL lower them if there is a gun at their head. Cameras can't see faces if the faces are masked. Unfortunately we Canadians are forbidden to use firearms for protection so some of you (Stateside) do have that option but still ... is your car worth a possible loss of life? I am not saying "do this or don't do that" I am saying ... give your security options a lot of thought. Police in Toronto initially recommended Faraday bags, now they are saying "leave the keys by the door and let them take your vehicle, confronting them is NOT worth it". It's F-ing pathetic and disgusting but it's how life in Toronto is now. Just something to think about ...

The link below relates to an event that recently happened in a very posh area of Toronto known as Forest Hill (86 Kilbarry rd). Similar events have become the norm here.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10909346/...ak-in-warning/

[realzed]

AND - in the GTA typically these days - if the same guys didn't get the car(s) they initially wanted they will be out on bail within 24 hours or less and may come back and try again - its not unheard of!
The Liberal government we have with its 'catch and release' mantra, has turned places like Toronto and Mississauga and Brampton into something akin to the Wild West when it comes to auto theft, car jackings, and drive-by shootings..
We need a Trump up here to fix many of our problems!

[427.060]

I just scheduled to get the TSB on the RFHM taken care of. I just found a list of quite a few TSBs on these cars. A lot of them won't be needed on my car. I'll have to do more research.

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/tsb_rec...hallenger/2023