1969 Camaro L89 with JL8 option at Kissimmee

[Jack_Tar]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In the art world an auction house would be sure if the painting they sell is legit, it would ruin their name for ever if they sold a fake. And they would commit an illegal act. Apparently not a problem in the auto auction world...


Can't just about anybody call the FBI on this auction company, evidence in this case i clear.


Jan </div></div>
The auction companies all state clearly on the descriptions that all of the information is provided by and represented by the seller and not the auction. That way it keeps them out of the &quot;misrepresented&quot; trouble.

[jannes_z-28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jireh Customs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In the art world an auction house would be sure if the painting they sell is legit, it would ruin their name for ever if they sold a fake. And they would commit an illegal act. Apparently not a problem in the auto auction world...


Can't just about anybody call the FBI on this auction company, evidence in this case i clear.


Jan </div></div>
The auction companies all state clearly on the descriptions that all of the information is provided by and represented by the seller and not the auction. That way it keeps them out of the &quot;misrepresented&quot; trouble. </div></div>


Even so the auction company has a responsibility. I doubt that an art auction company could get away with that clause if they sold a fake painting of Picasso. And the same should apply here as well, they have obviously been participating in fraud here. A fake painting sold for less than this car would have stirred up a lot of fuss in the art business.


It could be simple for the auction companies if they asked the seller for a certificate of the car before entering the action. No certificate no sell.


Jan

[Billohio]

Does mecum or seller put estimated value in listing? If it's mecum they should research the cars. Trim tag was easy to see

[Lynn]

There is no way for the auction companies to vet all the vehicles that come through. While I can't appreciate the &quot;nod and wink&quot; approach that they all take, the REAL culpability is on the guys misrepresenting the cars.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> the REAL culpability is on the guys misrepresenting the cars. </div></div>

This is the problem that American's suffer from today: &quot;Who can this be blamed on?&quot; Obviously it's never anyone's own fault these days. You are always going to have frauds and cheats. That's a given. It's the buyers fault. Anyone who puts their trust into someone or something that barely know anything about and then get burned by it, it's their own fault. Responsibility ultimately falls on the person forking over the cash.

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no way for the auction companies to vet all the vehicles that come through. While I can't appreciate the &quot;nod and wink&quot; approach that they all take, the REAL culpability is on the guys misrepresenting the cars. </div></div>

Thanks Lynn...I agree.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

With the internet and access to information that we have today, there is no one else to blame but yourself for not doing the research, asking questions, and finding a knowledgeable appraiser.

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With the internet and access to information that we have today, there is no one else to blame but yourself for not doing the research, asking questions, and finding a knowledgeable appraiser. </div></div>

Exactly!

[Lynn]

Same thing I thought Jim.

They did not build it. I was curious and sent them this question: I noticed the first few pics are of the Jack O'Donnell L89 car that just sold at Mecum. Did you guys build that car?


Got this answer: That's a photo file. We have many pics of builds we have done. I just love that pic of the Camaro

[SuperNovaSS]

Certificate? If that was the case there would be no cars going through the auction at all.

Who would certify the cars? What if a car came up as being fake down the line? How long would the certifier be accountable?

It is easy to throw out a solution like this but much harder to make it reasonable in the real world. All it would do is make real cars much more expensive in my opinion.

Jason