SCR7 thank you

[Mr70]

Quote: "Don't Give up So easy Guys"
Ya hear that Frank..Keep your A.I.R. attached.

[Charley Lillard]

Tell Pete to go row a boat. I think next year it should be Frank vs Marlin round 2 day 2. It would be a great study in the effects of headers etc.

[hvychev]

I might be down with that! M what do ya say you finally attach them Dougs Headers that you have in the basement?

[Salvatore]

Now your talkin Frank!

[Salvatore]

You are right about giving up Pete, you shouldn't,but your cars are far from stock even though they look stock. Maybe the tires hurt the most. Stock for the classification maybe...but stock GM

[COPO PETE]

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You are right about giving up Pete, you shouldn't,but your cars are far from stock even though they look stock. Maybe the tires hurt the most. Stock for the classification maybe...but stock GM

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Don't get me confused with the stock appearing gents. My Nova for instance has never been restored. It has been painted but that is it. Original springs on all corners, original body mounts etc etc. Stock cam from GM, stock unported heads from GM, TRW pistons, stock rods etc etc. Years of tuning, and real seat of the pants driving. My Camaro may have a few suspension mods, but we certified the motor. Stock GM cam, TRW pistons, stock rods and so on! Still a stock Deuce should be able to go mid to high 13's in it's sleep! I run the same tires as anyone else.
The pure stock guys are a unuaual breed and the only folks that have really tried to get the most out of a stock combination. The world was brainwashed right from the late 60's on from Hot Rod magazines that had to push advertisers products to sell there mags. They never ever really supertuned a car. They would make one pathetic blast down a track and then add headers, then after that set the timing and curve, then change jets etc etc, instead of sticking with it to see what it could do.
Again.... Don't give up so easy guys!
Peter

[Chevy454]

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They never ever really supertuned a car. They would make one pathetic blast down a track and then add headers, then after that set the timing and curve, then change jets etc etc, instead of sticking with it to see what it could do.

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So true...but, I have found exactly 1 instance where they tinkered with a virtually stock car to see what she would/could do. It was done by SS&DI, Nov '68, and was the start of their "Project Camaro" series. Here's the run down...

Test: '68 Z/28, ordered with 4.30 posi, spoilers, M22, power disc brakes, and floor mats. Total cost: $3,686.55

- Heater assembly & AIR pump removed, due to the car being in an accident just prior to starting the project. Everything else was rebuilt as it was from the factory.
- It was given a general tune-up (points/valves checked, etc), rev box (set at 7600), set of Stewart Warner guages, and a 340hp Corvette distributor. Stock Wide Track GT Goodyears and stock exhaust manifolds are still in place...car is basically as it arrived from Chevrolet.
- car weighed 3165 with 12 gallons of fuel aboard.
- Very first run was a [email protected], which proved to be the worst ET and MPH for the car that day.
- Valves run, new set of AC43s, car cooled down..it then runs a 13.99 @106.50, then a [email protected]
- Dropped air pressure in tires to 22psi, installed Champion J6J plugs, and timing reset to 40 degrees. Made 3 more passes, best of which was a [email protected].
- Rejetted to 72/70-76 and new J63 plugs, and the car goes [email protected].
- Installed Champion HO3 plugs, replaced air cleaner, let the car cool off, then went a best of [email protected].

So, in a matter of a few hours, they managed to knock off 6 tenth just by fiddling with the car. And that's mid 13s with a pretty strong MPH, on the skinnies, and through the stock exhaust manifolds. Unfortunately, most people spend the few hours they *should be* tuning instead installing a set of headers or a bigger carb or...

[Salvatore]

I agree with the hot rod part Pete. That is the way National Dragster is set up now it seems. It really is about selling products. Computers, throttle stops, computer shifters and so on. Anything new if you need it or not.

[John Brown]

Thats why the Pure Stock Drags are so good! Take what you have, make it "stocker", then tune and thrash. Change one thing at a time, give it a few trys. If it makes your car go faster, keep it. If not, go the other way till it does run faster. Keep on doing that till people think you're cheatin'. Pete, Rob, Rusty, see you guys at Stanton...... Rest of you out there, if you havent been there, you're missing a really good time.

[Salvatore]

I agree with you guys about thrashing your cars. But today, I think most of these guys are doing Day-2 just basically for the look not the performance. It is just a nostalgic look back at the old days, not really to enhance the performance. JMO Sam