High 69 Z-28 cross ram prices coming to an end??

[Mr70]

I don't see it,can you enlarge it.

[70 copo]

Here they come. The repop actually looks too good if you ask me.... So here is the way to tell the originals from the GM approved repops... if the edges are too sharp, and the detail too good... then its a repop!

According to the seller it is approved by the General.. As in General Motors that is!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...237094&rd=1

[Jeff H]

This is kind of confusing since Jim at Heartbeat City claims to be the only one licensed to reproduce the crossram and now this guy has one too. The manifold sure looks good though.

[hugger_69]

Jim made that claim a couple months ago where he stated he would have a complete reproduction intake ready for sale the next week. What happened to that, and why did that marketing claim disappear? He did say that he owned the original tooling did he not? He did claim to be the only one licensed did he not? Perhaps he is proceeding, but at a slower pace than at first thought. In any case, this classicpts ( 28) seller on eBay claims not only to be GM licensed, but states there were no original molds etc. I'd like to hear the rest of that subject as Jim claimed to have them? This seller at least delivered the intake as he claimed he would a couple weeks ago. His ad further states that a complete package will be forthcoming in the new year.

" complete bolt on package including camshaft and lifters will be available just after the 1st of the year if looking to purchase the complete setup"

Very interesting topic if you ask me. I would predict this will bring down the price of originals somewhere near the 12,500.00 market, with the complete repop kits will sell in the 7K range. If other vendors like Heartbeat also obtain licensing, then surely there will be a price war on repop units? I doubt there will be more than one vendor if GM has backed the part with licensing. They get royalties on the rice, and creating more than one vendor is like GM shooting themselves in the foot isn't it?

Time will tell.....

[70 copo]

I am sure that GM Legal will be watching the others if the new seller's claims are true - that he has the only ligit repops that are GM approved....

Phil

[Salvatore]

Who really wants them?? The repops cost about the same as a decent paint job. If I had a choice I would spend the money on a decent or better paint job. If somebody can spend 60,000 on a Z/28 resto, they have the bucks to buy an original X-ram setup. I think I have a fairly nice 69 Z/28 but how much do people think these cars are really worth? If an original X-ram is really worth $23,000 than the Z/28 camaro is not worthy of that option. I will instead buy another car and restore it for that money. Remember a Z/28 is NOT a supercar. JMO Sam

[70 copo]

"Remember a Z/28 is NOT a supercar".

The bidders at the last couple of Barriett-Jackson auctions must be quite confused then - cause I think if they are willing to shell out over $100K for a car I would call it one of two ways, either it is a car everyone wants, or the market for these cars (and perhaps others) is currently in "Junk bond" territory (and we all know what happened to those...) Lets see will see what they bring at Scottsdale this year

As for the X-ram on E-bay this was posted at the top of the auction:

"The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale."

Anyone have the skinny on what happened here??

Phil

[Salvatore]

Phil, I would say more money than brains! I understand the guy is trying to re-coop some of his money. I own a nice 1969 Z/28. It is still NOT a supercar. Just a very desirable muscle car. JMO Sam

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yep, the buyers at BJ are confused - the guy in the yellow jacket definitely was! Plus, you don't know how those high dollar deals shake out afterwards anyway, so I wouldn't use BJ as a true market indicator anymore than I would EBaY.

I remember the COPO Camaro and Chevelle that went across, barely pulling $75k or so = confusion? color? trans? But then they sold a few months later for much more?

BJ is fun to watch, but I leave it at that!

[Steve Shauger]

The car at BJ was questionable in just about every respect. It appeared to be a put together car with mostly repop parts. I also believe that this car may be back at BJ this year. A lot of people got caught up by the sale of that car. In reality it was just smoke and mirrors. I would hope the true enthusiast would not have been taken, as the fool in the Yellow Jacket was. I will tell you this, BJ is very, very entertaining.