Barrett Jackson is on fire

[Tracker1]

This thread:

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/513814/2

On page 2, I commented about how 357K was nuts for the red W30 convertible that went through BJ in 2013 (my comment is still there). I distinctly remember and will swear on my son's life that a couple of well-known "muscle car retailers" on this site came back very quickly in that thread to say that no, this was an accurate price for such a car, with a tone insinuating I didn't know what I was talking about (often true, but not in this instance). Then it blew up because someone else pointed out that the car had been found to have "questionable docs" as in aged and/or manipulated and/or outright falsified. Several people commented on it...but not me (I don't do tol-ya-so's) or the two respected sellers of muscle cars. All of this IS GONE from this thread. And I tell ya, IT WAS THERE in 2013. My comment about "protected" wasn't aimed at the administration of the site - that would be conspiracy theory and I don't do those either - it was aimed at those who want certain cars to maintain values and will protect the value of those cars if they happen to be in their inventory. At least that is what it felt like to me in 2013 on this particular thread.

[Tracker1]

Charley, very sorry, mea culpa. I posted the wrong thread and upon further research have found the thread where I also commented on the same W30 convertible....and the comments from the retailers are still there. My bad. I told you there were times I don't know what I'm talking about. I will take my turn behind the woodshed. Apologies to all.

[shor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread:

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/513814/2

On page 2, I commented about how 357K was nuts for the red W30 convertible that went through BJ in 2013 (my comment is still there). I distinctly remember and will swear on my son's life that a couple of well-known &quot;muscle car retailers&quot; on this site came back very quickly in that thread to say that no, this was an accurate price for such a car</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Charley, very sorry, mea culpa. I posted the wrong thread and upon further research have found the thread where I also commented on the same W30 convertible....and the comments from the retailers are still there. My bad. I told you there were times I don't know what I'm talking about. I will take my turn behind the woodshed. Apologies to all. </div></div>

But, You swore on your son's life.

[Stefano]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread:

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/513814/2

On page 2, I commented about how 357K was nuts for the red W30 convertible that went through BJ in 2013 (my comment is still there). I distinctly remember and will swear on my son's life that a couple of well-known &quot;muscle car retailers&quot; on this site came back very quickly in that thread to say that no, this was an accurate price for such a car, with a tone insinuating I didn't know what I was talking about (often true, but not in this instance). Then it blew up because someone else pointed out that the car had been found to have &quot;questionable docs&quot; as in aged and/or manipulated and/or outright falsified. Several people commented on it...but not me (I don't do tol-ya-so's) or the two respected sellers of muscle cars. All of this IS GONE from this thread. And I tell ya, IT WAS THERE in 2013. My comment about &quot;protected&quot; wasn't aimed at the administration of the site - that would be conspiracy theory and I don't do those either - it was aimed at those who want certain cars to maintain values and will protect the value of those cars if they happen to be in their inventory. At least that is what it felt like to me in 2013 on this particular thread. </div></div>

Des,

Conspiracy theories aside and in regards to the Red Barrett Jackson W-30. Your statements and opinions are just not completely accurate. The collector who was seeking a best of the best, 4 speed convertible knew what he was after. He obviously wanted the car more than the money. The fact that the paperwork Thornton had come up with, was fraudulent......well that is another matter and I would surmise, one of the reasons that the deal was backed up. The car was resold with no documentation at the next BJ auction for $250k. This to me is more surprising than the initial sale when the paperwork was believed to be authentic. The high bidder in-turn went out and purchased a bullet proof convertible and had it restored/cleaned up to his standards. While I was not involved with the sale/purchase, communicating with the buyer and seller leads me to be very confident that he has more invested than you may approve.

As someone who follows W-30s to a degree and who has had direct involvement with them, I can let you know that there was a recent offer tendered to purchase one of the known and documented W-30 4 speeds for much more than the BJ car, but the owner decided not to sell it and another great W-30 4 speed rag top recently traded hands in the value range of the BJ W-30.

With only 96 ever produced and approx 25 considered to be real and even fewer with original drivetrains, its not difficult to understand why a collector may decide to pay such a price. I don't make the market, but am familiar with it.

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I work my ass off trying to keep this a site people can rely on </div></div>

Thanks Charley, it shows. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HO455</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know what happened to this 1971 Olds 442 …it seems to have disappeared from the auction. This was the nicest Olds in the auction in my opinion. It was restored by Troy Thornton but it appears he pulled it from the auction. Maybe he sold it before it was set to be auctioned?
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Event...ERTIBLE-181077

I loved the 1969 Trans Am Prototype – I saw it at the Muscle Car Nationals and it was incredible. It should have pulled a lot more. But many of these rich guys it seems only care about the convertibles.
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Seller got cold feet backed out of the sale. What is a car like it worth?

[flyingn]

Thorton does some nice work.. See their cars all over around here..

[markinnaples]

Been out all evening, how has the money on Ron Pratt's cars been?

[SBR]

The Howard Hughes 53 Buick that he paid 1.5 million for just sold for 100K. Ouch!

[whitetop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SBR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The Howard Hughes 53 Buick that he paid 1.5 million for just sold for 100K. Ouch! </div></div>

I doubt he cares..his high dollar accountants had it set up so if he sold at a loss he takes a tax break. Pratt did not become billionaire by being stoopid.

I would even venture to say he has it set up where he even makes money..he writes off the full price of the Futureliner, I bet it's storage, ad all associated cost that he had including employees he hired to take care of it.