1970 L78 nova

[PxTx]

I was only kidding with the fuel pump. Once a car starts running into the 13's it seems they will always benefit from a better fuel delivery system.

Yes I know people get into the 11s with an old mechnical pump, but by simply adding an electric pump they will still go faster. I dropped .5 by running an electric pump.

As for the BBC vs. SBC debate- my vote is for the BBC.

I've got my L79 tuned pretty well, but 13.2 is the best she goes. A big block may not be able to pull my 1.7 60's foot times, but they usually walk me on the top end.


Paul

[Schonyenko2]

Gentlemen, all I said was that my deuce was faster than my L78. Not a lie, a fact. The L78 had 3.55 gears, and M20. If that worth 21/2-3 carlenghts I stand corrected. Please don't tell the L78 chevelles, 440 GTXs, and Boss302s that were also not quite as fast, that they should have won. We don't want to hurt their feelings.
Sam I agree when you're running in class on the strip, the LT/1 can't compete "headsup".
Mo, you're dead on with the holeshot, and hanging on. Big cubes start catching you in 3rd.
Kim, not 6 people. Five and 3 cases of old Milwaukee, and a bottle of Jack.
The argument about BB vrs Sb will never end. It was the same back in the day, only worse.
I've personally always thought the 68-69 L78s with the 163 high rise intake ran better than the 70 low rise. Just seemed that they flowed better.
Don, great find on the Nova. They really rock with the turbo. Schonye

[MotownMadman]

Schonye,
The 163 intake vs the lower model in 70 is a no brainer. I dropped an LS6 in a 69 Camaro, made a few passes with it and was unhappy with what seemed like a momentary hesitation standing on the throttle. I swapped out the intake to a 163 using the same carb, made some passes and gained a minimum of 3 tenths of a second on each run, everything exactly the same except the intake. The additional height of the 163 is just enough to allow the fuel molecules to mix with the air causing a less liquid mixture for faster and more efficent combustion. I would think GM only dropped the intake in an effort to engineer the cold air induction system to work correctly with hood clearance. Whatever the reason, the proof is in the results, I definetly gained a quicker ET with no other changes except the intake.
Motown

[Salvatore]

9,000 rpm's is a lot of revs. I would have to say the motor had the heads cut for big valve springs, a roller cam, and an MSD box. Most 02's shift around 7,500rpm's and go through the traps about 7,000. This is basically in stock eliminator trim. 9,000 rpm sounds like a comp. eliminator motor. JMO Sam

[MotownMadman]

Sam,
You were right on all three accounts.
Motown

[Norm reynolds]

There was a fellow that I used to watch in last 60s down at Acto take a small bock 327 and beat big blocks all day long His name was Bill Jenkins I would be down at the pits and watch Bill at work ( boy did I learn a lot) I don’t know why no body ever gave Bill his dues we hear a lot about Fred Gibbs Don Yenko and Dick Harrell but as long as I have been on this site no body ever mention Bill Jenkins I feel that he has been a major facture in the development on how much you could get out of a mouse motor I think he still lives about 40 min form me in Malvern Pa I know we were talking about stock but I believe Bill could still make a stock 327 and make it fly

[Schonyenko2]

Amen, and to Mr. Howie, Don't forget Dean Davis, and the Little Stinker chevy ll. Schonye

[Salvatore]

Nobody is a bigger Grumpy fan than me! I asked him to look at my 270hp carbs on my 1961 vette and he did. I even bought some vintage carb parts off him. He is a nice guy. Jenkins set the Pro Stock world on fire in 1972 with his small block Vega. He figured he could make enough power with his 331 in small block and much lighter weight to win and.....he did. Probably his name is not associated as much with this site because he didn't produce any cars. He didn't take any cars and prepare them with his name attached and so on. Today, I still believe if Chrysler wanted to put the SS/AA record in the 8.30's or 8.40's he could do it even before the hemi guys of today. He just would need to use Chryslers money. NOT his. He also had the Pro Stock truck class down pretty good till NHRA squashed it. You are right Schoneye and Kim those other guys really couldn't compete with Jenkins in those days. remember He did Dave Stricklers 1968 Z and also Don Yenko's Ed Hedrick SS camaro, and 2/3 of all the chevy stock and super stock cars in those days.

[Norm reynolds]

Sam I am too a big Gumpy fan watch him once put in a universal joint in 4 s min flat using and old king pin and hammer and a 1&1/4 socket I master that trick it easy and faster that trying to use a press When it came to engines he was nothing more then a
Genius I was allways in the pits just to watch him do his magic yes he was a nice guy I really miss the good old days

[Salvatore]

We used to talk to him down Cecil County in the old days. That is where he used to help Brooklyn Heavy out with the 68 camaro Heavy bought from him. You had to make things in those days you couldn't just go buy all the cookie cutter stuff like today. They really were the days! Sam