Baldwin Car For Sale

[Zedder]

Supercars, My statement was made as a generalty, it wasn't directed towards you personally. I don't know you personally, but I know you as a serious collector, but that doesn't mean a deal you are involved in couldn't go sour. The point I was trying to make was that some may have simply called to confirm with the SELLER that the car was sold. I would say it is unusual for the BUYER to announce that the car was sold, wouldn't you? Regardless, I am not trying to start an arguement with you. I was simply trying to help you see how others might have innocently attempted to make sure the deal was done. Like I said before, I didn't call on this car, but I wouldn't feel guilty if I did and acted as I described earlier. And I would have taken offense to being called and idiot and a yo-yo like other incocent callers did. I think you have a right to be upset with those who specifically called to screw up your deal, but your statements were unintentionally directed at all callers.

[shor]

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Jude, you really aren't being fair here. Anyway I thank you for the Chevelle magazine you sent, that was very nice of you. I emailed a thanks, but it didn't go through, you must have changed your email address.

Shor, what is your issue? All you've done is back out on a car deal with me, with some excuse that my orange Yenko from Otis Chandler's collection wasn't in(Otis owned 2 orange ones) Otis Chandlers book. I never told you it was, but I graciously sent your $40,000 deposit back, no questions asked. What more could I do for you???


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Supercars, I see by your last post that you are attempting to get personal. Do you think I am upset over that deal? Do you think my response to you was because I was secretly harboring ill will with you? The fact of the matter is that my respone about posting your phots on YOUR own site was because I don't care to see them here. I don't care for your behavior either, with regards to this car. There are plenty of people here who will kiss your *** and tell you how great you are and what a wonderful collection you have, and to please share some pics with us. I am not one of them. I like people for who they are, and how they treat others.It is tough to guauge people in the computer world but you can read thier posts and get a pretty good handle. Why don't you take a step back now Kevin, and reread your posts..... YOU have taken the fun out of this whole car.

My posts and responses are about PUBLIC issues that are raised on the board. Once a car hits the BOARD or a response hits the BOARD it is public info.
I guess you feel threatned or backed into a corner as evidenced by your last post dealing with PRIVATE issues.
What is that crap about Judes magazine. Are you trying to imply to everyone that Jude just is mad at you because he didn't get a thank you card from you??
And what about that crap about me not buying your your orange Yenko? Would you REALLY like to discuss that?? Because now that you have made it public I could start a new thread if you like.....

[SuperCars]

Shor, I was unclear as what your first posts were made for as there was no text, so asked what your issue was? When I saw your post that I should post pics on my own site, it came across like you are the moderator and wanted me to leave this site. I wasn't attacking you about not buying my Yenko (didn't understand why) and only brought it up saying that I graciously returned your deposit without question. As I had done nothing towards you, I couldn't understand your posts, and yes I felt you were having ill feelings towards me, with no reason for it. You made it personal first with your first comment to go posts pics on my own site. Sorry if I mis-interpreted your posts, or anyone elses posts that were genuinely innocent for that matter. Just don't feel it is correct for posts attacking me for being upset with guys that truly tried to undermine this deal.

The magazine I was thanking Jude for sending me was a sincere thank you. Felt it was good to at least say a few kind words in this ugly thread. But Shor is correct that the fun out of owning this car is gone. Basically, I had no clue as to who called or made attempts to buy it out from under me; so I did not say names nor make personal attacks on anyone. In frustration, I did make a general open statement telling guys to quit calling, as it could have been any of the thousands of non-registered readers of this site, that called Dustin's phone number to attempt to buy it out from under me. But it is the responders to this thread here that have made personal attacks to me first; thus making it personal, and I feel the need to defend myself.

[Mr70]

SuperCars
For the record,although I stated early in this thread I was interested in this Car,I never persude it after you replied that you had bought it.I have never met you,but I feel I know you to be a man of your word,and in my book I felt it was indeed a Done deal.I admire you for that and Thank You for your Candor. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

MotownMadMan
I gotta ask....In your earlier reply using that Deuce as an Example,you stated <font color="green">"It appears all the interest generated may have awoke the Great Dragon of greed..."</font>
Was this Car you refer to the Fencl-Tufo DD,or are just a Coincedence on your choice of words?
Have you Found out anything on the DD?
I am being Sincere here.

[MotownMadman]

Rick,
Just a coincidence of words, the car I was referring to was the Fathom Green Dik Watson Deuce that Jeff in Tennessee bought without knowing Dave had already made a deal. Once Jeff found out there was a deal he tried to turn the deal back over to Dave, which was a honorable thing to do. I am not sure if Jeff made it to SCR6 or not. I would like to extend an open apology to you for some of my remarks towards you in another thread, I just felt that while you may have personal issues towards another individual this board is not intended to be a place used for personal attacks. My resulting behavior was like living in a glass house and throwing stones. While individuals to this board may believe they are accomplishing something by using this board for personal attacks we must keep in mind by doing so it is not fair to the rest of the members here or the many who read this board who are not members. As for the DD, at the present time I prefer not to discuss this in an open forum, several members here are aware of the situation through off board discussions.
Thanks,
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[Mr70]

Matt
Yes Jeff L. did make it to SCR6,and I did see him and the Deuce there.Both are very unique,and worth the trip alone to see.
I appreciate your Apology and also agree with your statement.Somethings are better left to Emails,and not on a Public Forum.
As for the DD,I understand...ixna on the eucda.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Interesting post, I do like my popcorn [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I didn't know anything about this particular car, but the funny thing is, I have had similar situations with some of the people who are defending themselves here. Jude, why did you feel the need to tell 'Dustin' your opinion on the 'true' value of this car, what was your motive?

Matt, I don't see where the Belk situation is comparable here, there was no signed agreement to my knowledge. In fact, since several of us were on the sidelines on that one, we shouldn't be commenting at all - let those directly involved speak if they want to.

[AutoInsane]

OK, more importantly, Kevin when do you expect to hear from Joel if the car is a real Motion or not? Excited to see if your risk paid off.

Sorry to see issues get in the midst of buying the car. C'est la vie.

[LVCamaro]

Kevin,
I just noticed that you changed the name of this thread to "Not a Baldwin Car..." Did you mean to report that the Nova IS NOT a Baldwin, but IT IS a Motion car? Or, it is B-M car just not verified? Or...??? I'm sure you would have called Joel to verify before you finalized the purchase, so the thread name-change is confusing.

SS

[MotownMadman]

Marlin,
Being what you refer to as an "Old Geezer", I came from a time when signed contracts werent needed, all that was needed was a mans word or a handshake. A deal is a deal, on paper or not. That is a done deal so commenting is not a problem, when peoiple should have stayed on the sidelines was when the deal was in progress so the rest of the world would not have known of the deal to interfere, dont you agree Marlin?
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]