Little engines that can

[Day2_69Z]

An eye n ear laser light is a prized plug tool....reading the "rainbow" of colors, deposits and metal loss is a guarded science.
As is exhaust exit colors and flame length.
Tuning a boosted engine whether its Nitrous, Super Charger or Turbo(s) is still done by.
"Reading the Bearings"

The best time to tune a carb & plugs for a fine line "close" dial in is at night or in your Dark Trailer where you can read the Header Colors & lenght of Red Hot Pipes. .. . .Decades old , old school tuning WILL NEVER BECOME a THING of the Past,
Right Sam ....?

[napa68]

I love it when you start these threads Eric! It certainly get everyone thinking. Stock and Super Stock engines are the mother of invention [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img]

[WILMASBOYL78]

Sammy does his best tuning in the dark [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

wilma

[Salvatore]

you know it Tommy!

[Thomas]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An eye n ear laser light is a prized plug tool....reading the &quot;rainbow&quot; of colors, deposits and metal loss is a guarded science.
As is exhaust exit colors and flame length.
Tuning a boosted engine whether its Nitrous, Super Charger or Turbo(s) is still done by.
&quot;Reading the Bearings&quot;

The best time to tune a carb &amp; plugs for a fine line &quot;close&quot; dial in is at night or in your Dark Trailer where you can read the Header Colors &amp; lenght of Red Hot Pipes. .. . .Decades old , old school tuning WILL NEVER BECOME a THING of the Past,
Right Sam ....? </div></div>

So, there is someone here who understands what I am still learning. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

[EZ Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mountain Motors was/is a term used for IHRA Pro Stock racing. 850 cubic inches of whatever.
Usually the Fords got the most cubes out of their stuff.

The Mountain Motor Nationals at MIR. Fun to watch. Most could not qualify at an NHRA Pro Stock event.
</div></div>

MMPS, which I believe is limited to 825, outruns NHRA guys by about 3 tenths. The slow guys in MMPS would just dominate the 500's if they ran together. Our buddy had some issues and didn't qualify, EFI issues MAYBE. BUT have WON a number of MMPS events. If you look at the winners at say last NHRA and MMPS events, 500 win with a 6.62 but MMPS won with a 6.31.

But without a doubt, the NHRA 500 motors are the ELITE of N/A motors. We do have a friend who did just get a &quot;GOOD&quot; motor from the guys at ELITE infact. And even though the S or S/S stuff can run, like AA/HA Hemi's, the 500's are still the undisputed kings of N/A, searching for every hundredth, racing.

[Day2_69Z]

$120,000 @ 850 ci.
VS
$500,000 @ 500 ci.

May have a little something to do with it

R&amp;D &amp; PROVEN RESULTS = $$$$$

[EZ Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$120,000 @ 850 ci.
VS
$500,000 @ 500 ci.

May have a little something to do with it

R&amp;D &amp; PROVEN RESULTS = $$$$$ </div></div>

I think you a bit low on both? Not sure but I recall hearing a lease plan for 500's was about a million per year

[Thomas]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EZ Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$120,000 @ 850 ci.
VS
$500,000 @ 500 ci.

May have a little something to do with it

R&amp;D &amp; PROVEN RESULTS = $$$$$ </div></div>

I think you a bit low on both? Not sure but I recall hearing a lease plan for 500's was about a million per year </div></div>

I do know for a fact that it costs $50,000 to lease a Pro Stock engine for a race.
One of our local guys started dabbling in that until the expense got too much and he gave it up this year.

[EZ Nova]

Yes Marks Deal was pretty sweet. I believe he bought my crew chiefs old car when he went MMPS.