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a UVIP is a document which can be purchased by anyone (even online) who is considering purchasing an Ontario based vehicle. [/ QUOTE ] You have to be careful since posting a document for millions to see that arent interested in buying the car is not the intended use of that document i would think. Put yourself in the place of a previous owner who wouldnt be happy about seeing his name on the internet like this. Just an observation.Maybe your privacy laws up there are different. |
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[ QUOTE ] a UVIP is a document which can be purchased by anyone (even online) who is considering purchasing an Ontario based vehicle. [/ QUOTE ] You have to be careful since posting a document for millions to see that arent interested in buying the car is not the intended use of that document i would think. Put yourself in the place of a previous owner who wouldnt be happy about seeing his name on the internet like this. Just an observation.Maybe your privacy laws up there are different. [/ QUOTE ] There are no restrictions with respect to who sees the document as the government had stripped all personal information such as address and phone numbers. Anyone from anywhere can obtain this document at anytime. There is nothing to sign, no disclaimer, nothing which indicates that this document can only be purchased if (add cause here).
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It is impossible to certify a COPO or Z/28 as authentic without verifying that it is not a rebody... |
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OK....I'm getting lost again. Somewhere in this thread someone points out a green COPO that has a fake trim tag. Somewhere in this thread is a link to the old thread on the same COPO. In the old thread the car was re-united with it's orig trim tag and engine ? If so where is it's orig trim tag ? Is this even the same car ?
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I think we're back to the Yellow (L89)?
In any case, imho, 200k plus days are gone for a car like this even if it is real. As they say, the market, its a ajustin'.
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There may not be a line waiting to buy one but an L89 documented is gonna fetch some serious money still..real deal cars are still real money imho.
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Don't mess with old farts - age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience. |
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OK....I'm getting lost again. Somewhere in this thread someone points out a green COPO that has a fake trim tag. Somewhere in this thread is a link to the old thread on the same COPO. In the old thread the car was re-united with it's orig trim tag and engine ? If so where is it's orig trim tag ? Is this even the same car ? [/ QUOTE ] I'll try and simplify this. The green COPO is owned by Richard English. The Yellow L89 is owned by Phil Robinson. Both of these individuals own Camaro Heaven and both of these cars have fake trim tags. Yes, the COPO as explained in the other thread was supposed to have been reunited with it's body but it currently has a fake tag.
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I think this is only the Ontario registration history, so maybe it was purchased new out of province? I have seen these Docs from GM Canada list the original dealer, when in fact the car was transferred to another dealer before it was sold, so in fact the selling dealer is not on the paperwork. Case in point, the Canadian ZL1 sold in Alberta.
Its selling dealer and listed dealer on the paperwork from GM Canada are two different dealers. Mark
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The ad posted says the car was a one owner car "until" it was restored...it does not say it is a one-owner car...
I don't know anything about the car...just read the ad.
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I think this is only the Ontario registration history, so maybe it was purchased new out of province? I have seen these Docs from GM Canada list the original dealer, when in fact the car was transferred to another dealer before it was sold, so in fact the selling dealer is not on the paperwork. Case in point, the Canadian ZL1 sold in Alberta. Its selling dealer and listed dealer on the paperwork from GM Canada are two different dealers. Mark [/ QUOTE ] Normally this would be possible but there was a claim made in the advertising which indicated (as mentioned above) there was only one owner before the restoration. Since the ad mentions that the restoration occured in 2005, the original owner must be who owned the car in 2004.
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It is impossible to certify a COPO or Z/28 as authentic without verifying that it is not a rebody... |
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Ontario DMV records only go back to the early 70's, so if the car transferred out of Province either in a dealer transfer when new, or if the car was sold in Weston, On and the owner moved to Quebec for instance early in the car's life, the owner would not show up on the Ontario DMV ownership listing until the car was registered (or reregistered) in Ontario. No UVIP will list owners prior to the early 70's...I tracked a '67 Z years ago sold out of Gorries' and that is exactly what happened to the car.
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