69 Yenko Camaro

[Racefan]

Steve- The comment is more aimed at the fact that if it is just some poor schmuck on e-Bay that it will be discussed at length. If it is someone known within the hobby, people are more hesitant to discuss (in my opinion more out of fear of litigation/problems than an out and out conspiracy).

BTW, I sent an email to you through your business trying to get some info about the '09 Camaros. Would still like to speak with you if you get a chance.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm pretty sure Tommy considers himself 'some poor schmuck on e-bay'

What do want from this discussion? The car was explained accurately early on, so what is there to talk about?

If you have proof of another rebodied Yenko Camaro, then put it out there for discussion!

[Racefan]

I want nothing from this discussion. I made a statement which was admittedly not worded the way it should have been, then tried to clear up the intent of the statement.
I never, nor do I now, mean to make people angry with me. I could have/should have taken more care in how my post was written due to the impersonal nature of writing a textual message on the internet.

Last comment, there were two different VINs put out over the past couple days, I haven't heard anyone say anything about them either way. I asked a simple question, which was who was the current owner of the VIN I posted. Was curious to see if that car had ever had the hidden VINs checked for possible rebody. Obviously, no one knows who owns that particular car or it would have been discussed (or I would have been told in no uncertain terms that it was a clean car?).

It seems as though it was a discussion like this that led me to crawl into a hole over a year ago....I will now go back to that hole and leave the discussion to those who know what they're talking about.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Close 615704 is one I was thinking of.

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No need to go crawling into holes.

I believe that 615704 is indeed a rebody, apparently performed as a collision repair a loooong time ago. I believe the body used to replace it was originally a frost green car? I forget the entire story on it. The vin is for a fathom green, a/t, p/s, v/t Yenko Camaro from Hult Chev. If you've seen the video tape from it's maiden show, you'll remember this quote: "My name is so-n-so, '69 Yenko, fully restored it, and I'm here hoping to win"! Classic, should have said: "... '69 Yenko vin plate and trim tag....".

I am not aware that vin #615356 is owned by anyone, but have heard that the body was laying in a ditch - tagless If you've got more facts, share 'em!

[Tommy]

Poor schmuck checking in....... I got some interesting emails from the start on this car. I'm fine with it though, I knew I would have to be pretty thick skinned when it came to a car like this one. Most emails from this site and all the others were very encouraging but I did get a few that were a little edgy and they were from folks I didn't know and didn't know me . It turned out fine and I am confident that this car will be talked about again in the not so distant future in a positive way. Patience .........

Tommy

[Racefan]

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No need to go crawling into holes.

I believe that 615704 is indeed a rebody, apparently performed as a collision repair a loooong time ago. I believe the body used to replace it was originally a frost green car? I forget the entire story on it. The vin is for a fathom green, a/t, p/s, v/t Yenko Camaro from Hult Chev. If you've seen the video tape from it's maiden show, you'll remember this quote: "My name is so-n-so, '69 Yenko, fully restored it, and I'm here hoping to win"! Classic, should have said: "... '69 Yenko vin plate and trim tag....".

I am not aware that vin #615356 is owned by anyone, but have heard that the body was laying in a ditch - tagless If you've got more facts, share 'em!

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I have no photos, signed affidavits, or hard evidence. So, I will just say this...I was searching for #615356 a couple years ago. I reached the same dead end on multiple fronts. To all accounts in my search, that car is in a ditch in South Eastern Iowa. The common story is that a gentleman out of the Cedar Rapids area came by in the mid/late 80's and offered money for the tags and any other salvageable items and asked that the owner "dispose" of the remainder of the car as it was beyond what anyone wanted to undertake at that time. The owner did not dispose of it, and it continued to sit in the same spot atleast until a couple years ago. So, either non-related people were all making up the same story to throw me off track-- or the tags (or car with tags?) is floating around out there somewhere. I would be interested if anyone knows of the whereabouts of this Yenko....or any info at all. Curious to see where the tags ended up. The discussion of a couple years ago was...if I were to purchase the carcass with the actual hidden VINs intact, what happens to the value of the rebody with "my" tags?

Guys, I really didn't mean to start a crap-storm or make people angry (I swear). Sometimes it just happens?

I promise that I am a decent guy...

[LVCamaro]

hey Marlin...if you were driving along the back roads in Iowa and came across this car[cass] in the ditch...would you buy it, or bury it? what's the right thing to do?

[Schonyenko2]

Phil's version of this story is pretty much the same that I heard although I think as I posted before that the ditch car , which came from the Maquoketa area, and this car, which actually was not in a ditch, but near some buildings, and a fence are two different cars. Neither are the Hult car, but one could be a Friedly car to the best of my information.
I believe that the recovered Maquoketa car parts went to Marion. I have talked to previous owners of it, and it sat just East of town along a fence row, kinda in a ditch for quite a while until it was discovered, and bought.
The other car Phil talks about is second hand info. Nothing I could coroborate. I did have a conversation with the gentleman who passed on the info initially a couple of weeks ago, and I did ask what ever happened to the car. He said he had gone to see about it, and the owner had recently crushed it.
The rumor on this car was that the tags had gone to Marion.
I think Phil is trying to ascertain if the tags did somehow find their way to someone in Marion, and may be on a rebody.
There was a time when there was a thought of pulling that car out of there, and challenging the authenticity of any other one with that vin nbr, as it appeared that this was in fact THE correct car. It apparently never happened, and now the report is that it's been crushed pretty much because the guy got tired of walkin around it.
Phil, I don't think anyone is trying to cover anything up on this car. I kinda think it may have been more trouble than was worth to those considering it at the time.

Tommy, there was nothing in Phil's post aimed at you. The ebay smuck was a generalization that was knida misinterpreted. Perhaps he could have called them lost souls who were mislead.

[Racefan]

Here is what is strange..... IF the tags were indeed taken from the Friedly car, where did they go? The car isn't registered as alive, I did a VIN check on it in Iowa some time ago and it wasn't registered. The VIN tags were either never put into a rebody OR it was sold and left Iowa. Why would someone take the time and spend the money to purchase the tags and never use them? Strange?

Damn....I really want to find that car. Mostly for personal (family) reasons. But, it is a GHOST. I gave up the search a couple years ago, too damn frustrating.

[Schonyenko2]

Phil, sometimes people who rebody cars don't register them with the DMV. If you're not going to drive it on the road, and it's going to be in a collection, it doesn't necessarily need to go through DMV except for a title change once. I expect that may not always happen. Besides, if that happened in the 80s it's been outta the system to long to come up on a civilian search. Probably even police after 15 years. Remember in Ia. and a lot of states, if there's not transfers in a state alotted time frame,(5-10 years) they fall outta the system so to speak.
Think about it. If you had a rebodied Yenko that someone might want to do a vin trace on would you put it in the DMV system?